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Sbala123 02-27-2024 10:35 AM

Road tax
 
Hi guys,

Would anyone be able to let me know how much a 2005 (55 plate) S2000 would have been to tax back when it was new in 2005-2006. Quite intrigued to compare what the price hike is from then and now when it is £395.

Thanks

Nottm_S2 02-27-2024 01:15 PM

As close as I can get.. a 2001 car was cheap back in the day - £155 a year

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...0b77e4bfca.jpg

I am about to tax it for the summer, probably approaching £200 for 6 months? So in real terms I would say it's cheaper now

Late ones are £675 so not attractive to a tax averse lad like me lol


Sbala123 02-27-2024 02:09 PM

Would be good to see anyone with a 2005 or 2006 road tax disc.

lovegroova 02-28-2024 01:11 AM

Here you go:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...tbl2_271841458
Bank K was £165

aleksboch 02-28-2024 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by Nottm_S2 (Post 25051050)
Late ones are £675 so not attractive to a tax averse lad like me lol

I think they're over £700 now!

martin j 02-28-2024 02:42 AM

Oh please,I try not to think about VED, I just bite the bullet and pay it once a year and decide that’s the cost of a daily paper I don’t buy covering it, it’s the price we pay for the smile the car puts on our faces, it is unfair that different years pay different amounts but of course the high prices ain’t coming down they’d all just rise to match the highest level, that’s our government for you?

s2k4tony 02-28-2024 03:56 AM

You pay the price for a better car imo 06 onwards :p
My opinion, controversially.. the later models are supremely better. Stronger rear diff, stronger gearbox.. less twitchy. IIRC Savagegeese did a YouTube clip on the upgrades on later s2000s. In fact he did 2. Definitely more useable in the wet and late braking. Having owned '00, '02 and '06, covering 90k miles across them spanning 20 years / 6 years owning the 3.
I accept it, and think - it's an upgrade tax :LOL:
(Goes off to measure crank walk and DBW cable droop):egads:

Sbala123 02-28-2024 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by lovegroova (Post 25051121)

Wow, is that how much a 55 plate S2000 was to tax when new? Unbelievable. Tax at its finest but worth it for the S2000.

Nottm_S2 02-28-2024 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by s2k4tony (Post 25051141)
You pay the price for a better car imo 06 onwards :p
My opinion, controversially.. the later models are supremely better. Stronger rear diff, stronger gearbox.. less twitchy. IIRC Savagegeese did a YouTube clip on the upgrades on later s2000s. In fact he did 2. Definitely more useable in the wet and late braking. Having owned '00, '02 and '06, covering 90k miles across them spanning 20 years / 6 years owning the 3.
I accept it, and think - it's an upgrade tax :LOL:
(Goes off to measure crank walk and DBW cable droop):egads:

DBW and you say better? Homo.

My boosted one is betterer, very driftable, who needs a strong diff when you can just swap it? Lol

I am too tight to pay £700 to tax, even though I only tax one of mine for 6m I do 2 for that and a bike ;)


s2k4tony 02-28-2024 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Nottm_S2 (Post 25051157)
DBW and you say better? Homo.

My boosted one is betterer, very driftable, who needs a strong diff when you can just swap it? Lol

I am too tight to pay £700 to tax, even though I only tax one of mine for 6m I do 2 for that and a bike ;)

:D
Yep, I'd stick my neck out and say it is. Still has a cable half way. Mine runs fine, fairly sensitive now it's tightened to within 1.2cm -1.5cm of slack. No delay with mine despite it being a frequent whinge across the pond. Probably DBW does not last as long in hotter climates I'd suggest, and requires replacing. They're only 30 quid anyway, piece of piss to swap over.
Boosted... You'll pay at the pumps.. and higher wear, more heat etc. So it's all relative. :thumbup:
if our not so clever govt sorted the car tax out properly, higher powered cars included mapped /boosted or whatever, should pay more. All declarable on insurance and MOT (dodgy mot testers though everywhere haha).
it doesn't need to be insanely fast to be fun in my view, but I'd still like a passenger in a boosted one :D

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Nottm_S2 02-28-2024 11:11 AM

I've never driven a later one so can't comment, it was just for fun. The early cars unfettled are widow makers as I can attest having spun mine one Oct morning in 2003 iirc

Never happened again in the next 60k miles or whatever. The boosted one is lower, stiffer and easier on that front.

Boosted I do enjoy, it's a different car though, with SC it's even more Dr Jekyl (he was the bad un right?)

It's quicker than my E92 which would be £700+ tax now. Worse MPG though

If every price should double every ten years my 2001 should be much more expensive to tax than it is so I won't complain. There is a strong argument to keeping owd cars on the road, a build carbon footprint spread over 20 years is a lot lower than one over 10 :D






s2k4tony 02-28-2024 11:16 AM

Brother had a z3m, talking about widow makers..
​​​​​​That thing often tried to overtake itself. Terrific engine but terrifying to be in, you just never knew IF and when it would let go. 3 times it was crashed in his ownership over 3 years, including once by his indy mechanic. Oversteer monster, and it wore great tyres - it didn't matter.
but... He still pines after another :D​​​
Govt is doing all they can to kill the sports car with tax hikes. Well, all it will do is increase the co2 in summer when they come out their garages....

Nottm_S2 02-28-2024 11:30 AM

Mine is taxed March-August already. All to do with road salt and weather though. I didn't use it in winter when I did tax it
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lovegroova 02-28-2024 10:33 PM

Current one is £675
£325 for pre March 2001
£395 for the inbetweener

£23 extra a month for the newer one which makes it seem less horrendous.

We can thank the idiot Labour mob for this - basing car tax on CO2 emissions was totally moronic. It gave us all those lovely "clean" diesels. ****wits.

Rilot 02-28-2024 11:28 PM

I couldn't stomach £700/year for the post 2006 models so I bought a 2005. It does grind my gears that Mr Sunny-weather-only-500-miles-per-year pays £700 road tax for his 2007 S2000 but Mr Sales-rep-25k-per-year pays £130 for his BMW 116d.

s2k4tony 02-28-2024 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by lovegroova (Post 25051354)
Current one is £675
£325 for pre March 2001
£395 for the inbetweener

£23 extra a month for the newer one which makes it seem less horrendous.

We can thank the idiot Labour mob for this - basing car tax on CO2 emissions was totally moronic. It gave us all those lovely "clean" diesels. ****wits.

Labour most definitely cocked this up.
Bizarre thing is, they won't change the system. I know, get a 40 year old V8 classic and pay no tax at all or mot. Daft and dangerous I'd say.
needs an overhaul through parliament, instead, tax you to the hilt to shoehorn you into an EV that the charge network can't cope with. Yeah great idea that !

Nottm_S2 02-29-2024 01:05 AM

£217 for 6 months for my 2001 car
£395 for a year

It's clearly bust but we have had a Tory gov for quite some time and they havent fixed it

Or the roads.

We might get Gads proper right gov next

s2k4tony 02-29-2024 04:22 AM

Gad.. I always knew he was Farage in a cape.
Seriously it's not funny dodging potholes. It's crater crazy right by Salford hospital on my twice weekly slog. Actually they are that bad, they pepper the once marked bus lane. Probably 400yds of surface that is totally bladdered with holes.
What indeed is my car tax paying for - NHS pay rises? Or RNLI hooking corpses out the Channel?

martin j 02-29-2024 05:42 AM

Unfortunately the RNLI are pulling the live ones out the water and bringing them ashore, no road tax anymore it’s now Vehicle Excise Duty and simply goes into the government tax pot, maybe the £31million to protect mp’s?

Nottm_S2 02-29-2024 07:26 AM

Shoulda checked before I taxed it

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...1a5bdcb2a6.png



s2k4tony 02-29-2024 11:31 AM

Lol... I echo your Tory disdain..
Sure enough, Rishi would say we're still paying the price for COVID. That excuse can't last forever - nearly 4 years on.
The UK is super messy - emigration for me if I could. If you can't beat em, join em!:LOL:

Nottm_S2 03-01-2024 02:39 AM

I know what you mean.

rishi has no reason to want that job other than to protect or enhance his wealth. He is asleep at the wheel, maybe a labour or Reform stooge? Their candidates, Rishi, Truss, Boris, it reads like a who's who of total twats.
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martin j 03-01-2024 08:15 AM

Twats, that’s a complement, Rishi and many others only out to fill their pockets, trying to emulate Tony b liar.

Nottm_S2 03-03-2024 08:31 AM

Pulled mine out of hibernation today after the rain stopped.

A couple of turns with the fuel pump immob and then she fired straight away. Took it out for a spin, glorious, reminded me why I love this car and put paid to thoughts of sale

Sun out, 5C lol




s2k4tony 03-03-2024 10:32 AM

Was at a car meet today in mine roof down.. loads more punters around the car than usual ( I go monthly in it), good natter with people thinking of owning or previously had one, and in "the know" that it's a seriously good car from Honda. Over engineered almost, for the money they cost from new.
Sitting amongst glued together TVRs with poor detailed finishing and ropey panel joins, it stood out (as always). They have the noise for sure those Trevors, but looked knocked together in a Blackpool shed. Funny that...
I was drooling over a Tamora though, despite it's chocolate engine. They're a stunner IMO, one of the best ever from TVR below the mad as hell Sagaris.
Going to monthly meets like this sort of makes the tax worth it. We have about 100 cars turn up of all types... from MK1 Capri to even a 700bhp Tributo today. Glad to say, s2000 is being noticed these days by alot more of the petrolhead community realising the secret powers they have :LOL:

Nottm_S2 03-03-2024 11:35 AM

Over engineered could be applied to a lot of Hondas of this era but yeah, quality thing

But also so right as a drivers car. Love it.

I don't have a crystal ball, it's not a financial investment for me, it's just something I really enjoy


noodels 03-03-2024 12:06 PM

Salting roads last night,its staying in the garage..

Nottm_S2 03-03-2024 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by noodels (Post 25051923)
Salting roads last night,its staying in the garage..

I stalk Notts CC on twatter, they haven't gritted here recently. It was dusty but dry here but I share your concern. Plan to do some work under the cars this year. Might go to that show at NEC for some product research





skiddy1903 03-06-2024 01:30 AM

When I got another S2000 last year I specifically looked for a post 2006 because they are allowed in to the low emission zone in Aberdeen while pre 2006 aren’t. It’s the same rules as the London ULEZ except it’s not a daily fee, it’s a ban and you get a fine if you enter it. Only starts being enforced this summer.

Exactly the same engine, exactly the same emissions, just certified against the different euro category means pretty much twice the tax but is allowed in the city. I agree with the idea of a low emission zone but basing it on the euro category of engines is stupid.

martin j 03-06-2024 03:43 AM

You don’t expect councils to make sense?

s2k4tony 03-06-2024 04:29 AM

None of it makes sense to be fair.
You could argue the same thing when houses were built post/pre a certain date and thrown into bandings. Ours is band E, some on our road D with the same square footage. Newer houses got a kicking.
Tax you when you fart in public soon..
Govts love money, and any way it can be scammed off the public to be dressed up to cover secondary property maintenance...

2003_silver_user 03-06-2024 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by skiddy1903 (Post 25052256)
When I got another S2000 last year I specifically looked for a post 2006 because they are allowed in to the low emission zone in Aberdeen while pre 2006 aren’t. It’s the same rules as the London ULEZ except it’s not a daily fee, it’s a ban and you get a fine if you enter it.

Just posting for info, but given that I already knew my 53 plate 2003 S2000 was OK for London ULEZ, I just put the reg into the Scotland ULEZ checker page, and it is also allowed.

Nottm_S2 03-06-2024 08:53 AM

Mine can't

idgaf.. I went in the London one when I flogged my M3, they charged me. It's a mistake to drive there and I'm coming to the same conclusion about visiting.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...a5d169fbc8.png

I could just stick false plates off my Honda e on it ;). squint it's blue ish
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skiddy1903 03-06-2024 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by 2003_silver_user (Post 25052290)
Just posting for info, but given that I already knew my 53 plate 2003 S2000 was OK for London ULEZ, I just put the reg into the Scotland ULEZ checker page, and it is also allowed.

Yeah I know the checkers show that now but I’m not 100% convinced.

When I was buying last year there wasn’t a reg checker for the Scottish LEZs, it just gave the rules which for petrol cars is Euro 4 onwards. Pre 2006 S2000s are Euro 3. So going with the info I had it had to be a post 2006.

Turns out I might have been able to go for an earlier one and save a bit on tax but I’ve had a ‘52 plate one before so happy to have a later one and I’m happy with the car which is the main thing. Tax is a side issue. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the checker is wrong cause it clearly contradicts the rules and I couldn’t be arsed with having to argue the toss over that.


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