Nick Graves

Mine was handling crap again.

It was just that it was toeing-out at both ends - after a couple of thousand miles since the last re-set. Of course, that put the rear camber slightly out on the offending rear wheel.

They don't like being hammered over road craters.

Nick Graves

BTW - ALL multi-link rear ends have a degree of passive RWS - it's just more exaggerated on the S2000 so you can steer it on the throttle better. It's just a bit counter-intuitive to those used to 'traditional' throttle-steer.

BenH

Very interesting thread.

I've had mine for 3 months now and one of the first things I noticed is that when accelerating on a sweeping bend, when you take your foot off the accelerator to change gear, the car turns into the corner slightly. I thought there was something wrong or worn but this puts my mind at rest.

djchocice

That would be weight shift as well. When accelerating hard the weight shifts to the rear giving better traction and grip. As you change gear mid corner, the weight will shift back toward the front, momentarily shifting the grip to the front. That and as you change gear the diff isn't fully wound up as well. Personally, I avoid changing gear mid corner as it can upset the cars balance and it keeps things smoother.

foyler

So now that I have the wheels, tyres & alignment sorted, I'm curious on a couple of differences from the MY00 - MY04 (Hope thats the right acronym).

The whole passive rear steering/steering on throttle feels much more pronounced in the later car - any reasons for this - softer back end?

Also I think (Its been 3 years) I preferred the firmer ride of the earlier car, I believe they softened them to reduce the likelihood of snap oversteer but what are the options to reduce the rebound and and bounciness out the back?
Fitted billies to the family vrs and it transformed the handling but conscious that these are far more likely to be unsettled by any changes and the boyos in Honda probably had a better idea what they were at setting it up than I....

chrispayze

ARBs and coils are softer on MY04, so if the RWS is setup to have a similar response, then it probably would be more pronounced, as the suspension is softer.

I have a MY04 and I've tried a couple of different coilovers (Meister R Zeta R and now GT1s) and put MY00 front ARB and CR rear (MY02 would do the trick too). Much improved!

2nd hand OEM ARBs are a cheap upgrade and will make it corner flatter and respond to changes of direction more quickly. Won't help on the 'yumps' in the road though, that's coilovers time! I found rebound much slower with the Zeta Rs but control in compression wasn't as good in 'yumps'. GT1s are good everywhere!

lovegroova

I understand that the RWS is less pronounced on the 04 onwards because of changes to the suspension geometry.the chassis was stiffened so that the suspension could be softened.

I had Bilsteins on my old MY02 and they were superb, if expensive.

Chuck S

It's the nature of the beast. And we see cars wrecked here monthly from inattention at the limits.

Honda worked hard to tame the sometimes dramatic oversteer in the early cars. Lifting the throttle mid-fast corner is a good way to make these car swap ends. Suspension changes every couple of years occurred. The suspensions on the late cars are the most stable for normal driving.

-- Chuck