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Old 04-11-2014, 01:43 AM
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Hi Guys

Some of you may have seen I am interested in a Cat-D S2000. The seller has told me the suspension geometry has been done after repairs, and has sent me this print out.



I have to admit, I know in principle what I'm looking at but don't have the knowledge to know if this is good or bad and I'm not quite following how this relates to the 'proper' set up as determined by Honda listed in the tech FAQs - does anyone have any comments?
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Caster is very low. More importantly in the circumstances, there's quite a big difference between left and right in the front settings. That could be because they CBA'd doing it properly, or because something is stuck, or because something is bent.
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Does the seller know if those readings are with a weight on the drivers seat?

Does anyone with more knowledge know how big an impact a typical drivers weight would have on those measurements?
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Like above, is that because they couldn't be bothered to do a better job or because it wasn't possible?

I wouldn't be satisfied with it if that was my geo report.
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Caster is likely too low because the adjuster/adjusters is/are seized.

Same can probably be said for NSF camber.

Rear toe is far too low, unless it has adjustable toe arms with spherical bearings; the car will want to oversteer.

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Is there not a full printout, including wheel setback, etc, which the modern machines do?

That'll tell you if it's banana-shaped.

I know my left front is back a bit, probably due to a slightly bent something.
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As Nick say's set back and SAI angles are just as important as camber etc, most cars will have a small amount of set back, but large set back will point to a bent chassis, badly aligned subframe or different castor angles, big difference in SAI can point to a bent stub axle,,,

These are reasonable set back and SAI angles indicating a straight car

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Indeed - bear in mind the values are calculated, so they will always vary a bit. Like between two attempts at measurement.

But big differences are what you're looking for.
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