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biker1 01-17-2005 12:00 PM

Suspension Wishbone & rear control arm bushes
 
There has been cause for concern in the UK over the “seizing up” of these bushes that comes to light whenever an alignment adjustment is done and you are told ‘sorry we cant get the correct settings as you have an alignment adjusting bolt (s) seized’
What seizes are the alignment adjustment bolts in the sleeves that go through the actual rubber bush in the bottom wishbones along with rear control arm bushes.

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Alignment adjustment bolt & sleeve

You have in respect of the wishbones (2 wishbones - top & bottom - in each wheel arch) front and rear.
The bottom wishbones have 2 large bushes that attach them to the sub frame.

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Front bottom wishbone & alignment bolts


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Rear bottom wishbone & alignment bolts


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Front bottom wishbone mounting


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Rear bottom wishbone mounting


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Front bottom wishbone alignment bolt


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Rear bottom wishbone & alignment bolt

The top wishbone also has 2 bushes which mounts it to the car, the bolts used for the top wishbones mountings are splined which reduces the tendency for them to seize but never the less they can have a possible “seizing” problem but are not detected as easily as the bottom bushes as they do not have any alignment adjustment properties, they simply seize on the bolt going through them, making the top wishbone extremely hard to move up and down in its natural movement.

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Front top wishbone & mountings


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Rear top wishbone & mountings


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Splined bolt for top wishbones

Rear control arm bushes: Again these alignment adjustment bolts will seizes in the bush that connects it to the rear sub frame and so causes the problem.

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Rear control arm & alignment bolt

If they are seized then there is really only 2 ways of getting them out:
1/ heat, which usually destroys the rubber part that surrounds the bolt/sleeve
2/ sawing them, which obviously destroys them

Reason why they seize: They are assembled with no grease what so ever and if the vehicle is used all year round you are bound to get the ingress of water and corrosive salt (in the winter) that’s the start of it. Obviously I am more directing these comments to vehicles used in the UK with our damp weather and winter salting conditions.

Prevention; If your car is relatively new then I would suggest greasing these areas to hopefully cut down the moisture from entering, with vehicles older than that its anybody’s guess how far your corrosion problem will have progressed.
If you feel you want to have it stripped down, inspected and protected with thick grease, it will be quite expensive as it is quite a labour intensive job and not forgetting the “alignment” you will have to do afterwards.

(Sorry about some of the quality of photo)



Photo album: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/gallery/a...ension-bushes/

s2uk 01-17-2005 12:08 PM

very well documented and shown, i will be getting my cars bushes treated this weekend all being well. once again i am impressed with the way you go about things.

markS2kcU 01-17-2005 12:17 PM

How much are we talking spendy wise if you got to have new bushes? Is it DIY fitment or stealers?

AquilaEagle 01-17-2005 12:44 PM

Very good info nigel :bow:

One to add to the Tech FAQ i think neil :)

LLOYDJ 01-17-2005 12:49 PM

Good Post! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Bassoctopus 01-17-2005 01:05 PM

:iagree: Thanks for giving us some much needed info on this subject Nigel. Excellent :) It'll be going in the tech faq if that's ok with you :)

The Boy Wonder 01-17-2005 01:45 PM

:bow: thanks Nigel

biker1 01-17-2005 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by markiem8,Jan 17 2005, 09:17 PM
How much are we talking spendy wise if you got to have new bushes? Is it DIY fitment or stealers?

Mark, unfortunatly you cant get the bushes seperatley (unless you buy Mugen or Spoon) the OEM ones come in the complete arm/wishbone, they arent cheap,

APPROX: Lower front wishbone/arm

markS2kcU 01-17-2005 02:59 PM

[QUOTE=biker1,Jan 18 2005, 12:37 AM] Mark, unfortunatly you cant get the bushes seperatley (unless you buy Mugen or Spoon) the OEM ones come in the complete arm/wishbone, they arent cheap,

APPROX: Lower front wishbone/arm

The Boy Wonder 01-17-2005 10:14 PM

:( I had to fork out that kind of money last year....its really not nice....


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