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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Ok first off let me start off by saying I know there are plenty of tire threads out there. However I didn't find one asking about the specific set up I'm looking into I even tried to use the wheel fitment guide.

But my question is will this set up work, this is my 2nd S and I always ran factory wheels and tires on my first one. The thing is I don't want to pay $1000+ dollars on rims and tires just to find out I need fenders rolled or some camber. Is there any way i can get this set up to work with out needing any of that. Also the car is lowered(was lowered when bought and not by previous owner) so I have no idea by how much or brand of lowering springs. All I'm asking for is help as in it will fit with this tire size etc etc.

Other option sizes for the same rims I'm looking into would be : "18x8+45 Front with 18x8 +45 Rears or 19x8.5 +45 Rears". If any of these to setups would fit better without fender roll or camber let me know and what tire size i should run.

Please and experts help don't want to be stirred wrong and waste money for something that won't fit. Also I will add a pic so you guys can see how lowered it is on factory wheels.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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All of the setups listed will require fender rolling. You should be staying in the 50-60 offset range with a 7.5 inch wide front and 9 inch rear. Also, 19's are extremely large for our car, most would recommend not going any larger than 18's.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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All of the setups listed will require fender rolling. You should be staying in the 50-60 offset range with a 7.5 inch wide front and 9 inch rear. Also, 19's are extremely large for our car, most would recommend not going any larger than 18's.

Thanks man for a fast reply. Sucks guess i gotta find me a whole new will set up that doesn't require rolling and yea i didn't really plan on adding the 19's I at least wanted the 18x8 all around nun staggered but figured id ask.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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The way to not roll the fenders is to buy wheels with the same offsets as oem. Anything wider and with a lower offset will require fender work and camber. Read the wheel fitment sticky all the info you need is there.

Oh and it's worth mentioning you can mess up your front fenders even on oem wheels if you are lowered. Watch the fender liners. If they show signs of rubbing you need to roll them.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
The way to not roll the fenders is to buy wheels with the same offsets as oem. Anything wider and with a lower offset will require fender work and camber. Read the wheel fitment sticky all the info you need is there.

Oh and it's worth mentioning you can mess up your front fenders even on oem wheels if you are lowered. Watch the fender liners. If they show signs of rubbing you need to roll them.
Thats a bummer as i know I'm going to go 18's and wanted at least 18x8 front and 18x9 in the rear or nun staggered 18x8 all around but it seems fender rolling can't be helped unless i go factory sizes.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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Why on earth would you want 18x8 all around? That is a terrible setup. Narrower than OEM AP2 wheels in the rear. If you want 18's you wider as that's the only reason to have 18's because the tire options are there for wider than 255. It sounds like you don't really know that much about what works so take some time and read a lot. At the end of the day the diameter of the wheel doesn't matter (don't go bigger than 18's) its the width and offset. I would still suggest rolling the fenders if you are lowered even if you stick to oem offsets and widths but thats me being over careful as I have tried to fix damaged fenders caused by lowering and oem wheels.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
Why on earth would you want 18x8 all around? That is a terrible setup. Narrower than OEM AP2 wheels in the rear. If you want 18's you wider as that's the only reason to have 18's because the tire options are there for wider than 255. It sounds like you don't really know that much about what works so take some time and read a lot. At the end of the day the diameter of the wheel doesn't matter (don't go bigger than 18's) its the width and offset. I would still suggest rolling the fenders if you are lowered even if you stick to oem offsets and widths but thats me being over careful as I have tried to fix damaged fenders caused by lowering and oem wheels.
Of coarse I don't know otherwise I wouldn't be here asking and the reason I said 18x8 is because I saw a non staggered topic on here. Plus in addition you said to read the fitment guide and I did with the lowest width being a 8.0 for the rear. Not trying to get bashed or told how much I don't know this is a forum for people who don't know to ask questions and get simple yes or no this won't work etc etc.

My final question is what about a 18x7.5 front +45 and 18x8.0 +40 rear?
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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You have to forgive manga, he can be a little edgy sometimes

The best advice would be to stay with at least the stock width rims that comes on the ap2 at minimum, so that would be a 8.5" rear not an 8. 7.5" up front is fine, its a 1/2" wider, however with the right offset you can increase the front and rear widths several inches above stock, maximizing the available grip from the typical 17" size rubber IE; 255/40 without needing to roll fenders (at least in the rear) the front requires rolling beyond a particular level depending on the width tire you want to run. You have a fairly wide scope of fitment to work within, you just have to decide what your budget is and what level of performance above stock if any.

Running 18" rims without running a fitment that lets you go beyond a 255 width tire doesn't make much sense from a practicle standpoint since that option will cost you more up front and with ongoing tire replacements and your not getting any of the performance benefits. If you just like the way 18's look, ok then. You should be happy with how your wheels look.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
You have to forgive manga, he can be a little edgy sometimes

The best advice would be to stay with at least the stock width rims that comes on the ap2 at minimum, so that would be a 8.5" rear not an 8. 7.5" up front is fine, its a 1/2" wider, however with the right offset you can increase the front and rear widths several inches above stock, maximizing the available grip from the typical 17" size rubber IE; 255/40 without needing to roll fenders (at least in the rear) the front requires rolling beyond a particular level depending on the width tire you want to run. You have a fairly wide scope of fitment to work within, you just have to decide what your budget is and what level of performance above stock if any.

Running 18" rims without running a fitment that lets you go beyond a 255 width tire doesn't make much sense from a practicle standpoint since that option will cost you more up front and with ongoing tire replacements and your not getting any of the performance benefits. If you just like the way 18's look, ok then. You should be happy with how your wheels look.
Well the S has always been my dream car since the first F&F good ol "Johnny Tran" lol. But I'm honestly starting to hate the S up to this point seems hardly anything I like wheel wise fits and sure the factory wheels aren't ugly but that doesn't mean i want them. Whats the point of building my dream S when I can't even get a pair of wheels I love and have to settle for like a 10th best.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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Wheels are hard on this car no doubt about it, its unique in that it needs higher offsets then most. What that boils down to in a nut shell is you fork out a lot of money for nice custom multi price forged wheels, spend less on wheels you may not like as well visually, or find some you do that are in your budget but are lower offset that require fender rolling/modification. The latter is the typical, its not a big deal, but i respect the fact that someone doesnt want to modify the fenders on this car.

These are basically what you will be faced with. I spent 1 year looking for the right wheel for me on this car before pulling the trigger. Although back then there really wasn't much of a wheel/tire forum with experts available to learn from. How long have you been looking now? If not finding wheels you like for this car detracting you from wanting it, then I'm inclined to think you dont fully appreciate what the car offers and probably shouldn't own one.
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