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Old 10-19-2016, 08:07 PM
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Hi guys,
I have a very simple question for you guys running pretty aggressive wheel setup, how do you guys not rub???
Compare to some of you, I believe I have a very mild set up on my S. I have Enkei PF01s staggered set up as follows,
18x8 +45 with 215/45/18 in the front and 18x8.5 +48 with 245/35/18 in the back.
The front rubbed occasionally and rear dont have any issue but I just installed the HKS Hypermax coilovers and lowered about an inch or so.
Now the fronts rub almost all the time. I have seen some ppl run wider wheels and even non-staggered set up. Again, how do you guys not rub?
Thanks for your input!!!!
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Your front tire is the wrong series at 45, it should be 40. So thats part of the main issue right there, its too tall a tire. You also have to factor in camber alignment to get the tire to tuck in as it compresses, which is especially imperative if your lowered and your fenders aren't rolled. Where is the camber currently? Your very likely going to need to either replace the front tires with the proper overall diameter size, or raise the car back up at the very least. The proper/standard thing to do all that aside would be rolling the front fenders, thats how people fit bigger wheels and tires.
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Front fenders should be rolled even with a proper diameter 215/40. Rear, you might be OK without a roll but it wouldn't hurt to do all 4. I'd roll the fenders and then run 225/40, 255/35 tires. Rears would be slightly pinched though.

People running non-staggered without fender work are probably running 9" +60 at stock height.
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Originally Posted by 1nate7
Front fenders should be rolled even with a proper diameter 215/40. Rear, you might be OK without a roll but it wouldn't hurt to do all 4. I'd roll the fenders and then run 225/40, 255/35 tires. Rears would be slightly pinched though.

People running non-staggered without fender work are probably running 9" +60 at stock height.
You realize thats only a couple mm less aggressive then the op up front right? Throw in the narrower % 215 tire to rim width ratio of a 245 up front and the OP would have more outer clearance. The main issue is his overall tire diameter and ride height, along with camber. 8 +45 with a normal/stock size 215 isn't an automatic front fender roll requirement. Just like a 9 +45 with a stock 245 in the rear isn't either.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Your front tire is the wrong series at 45, it should be 40. So thats part of the main issue right there, its too tall a tire. You also have to factor in camber alignment to get the tire to tuck in as it compresses, which is especially imperative if your lowered and your fenders aren't rolled. Where is the camber currently? Your very likely going to need to either replace the front tires with the proper overall diameter size, or raise the car back up at the very least. The proper/standard thing to do all that aside would be rolling the front fenders, thats how people fit bigger wheels and tires.

My bad, the fronts are rolling 215/40/18s. yeah they still rub. I guess rolling fenders is my only option?
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Originally Posted by 1nate7
Front fenders should be rolled even with a proper diameter 215/40. Rear, you might be OK without a roll but it wouldn't hurt to do all 4. I'd roll the fenders and then run 225/40, 255/35 tires. Rears would be slightly pinched though.

People running non-staggered without fender work are probably running 9" +60 at stock height.

+60? those are some hard to find offset for aftermarket rims.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1476938483' post='24088167
Your front tire is the wrong series at 45, it should be 40. So thats part of the main issue right there, its too tall a tire. You also have to factor in camber alignment to get the tire to tuck in as it compresses, which is especially imperative if your lowered and your fenders aren't rolled. Where is the camber currently? Your very likely going to need to either replace the front tires with the proper overall diameter size, or raise the car back up at the very least. The proper/standard thing to do all that aside would be rolling the front fenders, thats how people fit bigger wheels and tires.

My bad, the fronts are rolling 215/40/18s. yeah they still rub. I guess rolling fenders is my only option?
Yes, if you want to lower the car.
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Originally Posted by xenann
Originally Posted by 1nate7' timestamp='1476939895' post='24088182
Front fenders should be rolled even with a proper diameter 215/40. Rear, you might be OK without a roll but it wouldn't hurt to do all 4. I'd roll the fenders and then run 225/40, 255/35 tires. Rears would be slightly pinched though.

People running non-staggered without fender work are probably running 9" +60 at stock height.

+60? those are some hard to find offset for aftermarket rims.
Yep, pretty limited. But there are some. Some of us have just gone custom.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by xenann' timestamp='1476987538' post='24088529
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1476938483' post='24088167']
Your front tire is the wrong series at 45, it should be 40. So thats part of the main issue right there, its too tall a tire. You also have to factor in camber alignment to get the tire to tuck in as it compresses, which is especially imperative if your lowered and your fenders aren't rolled. Where is the camber currently? Your very likely going to need to either replace the front tires with the proper overall diameter size, or raise the car back up at the very least. The proper/standard thing to do all that aside would be rolling the front fenders, thats how people fit bigger wheels and tires.

My bad, the fronts are rolling 215/40/18s. yeah they still rub. I guess rolling fenders is my only option?
Yes, if you want to lower the car.
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Thank so much for your input on this.
How about max negative camber? still need the fender roll?
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I think the ones not rubbing are running the PF01's at 17x9 +60 and not 18x8 +45


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