Stickiest track day tire that can still be used on street?
05-21-2017, 03:41 PM
#11
Really??? Even compared to a r-comp like a Nt01 or trofeo?
I dont care about fast wear. What I do care about is consistent performance. I am just a track day guy, so a tire that performs the same lap after lap is key. If the re71 is really peaky, not for me. I am ok with short run life, as long as it's steady throughout that time period.
I dont care about fast wear. What I do care about is consistent performance. I am just a track day guy, so a tire that performs the same lap after lap is key. If the re71 is really peaky, not for me. I am ok with short run life, as long as it's steady throughout that time period.
Cold 71R's are stickier than cold NT01's.
Properly warmed 71R's are about the same as properly warmed NT01's.
NT01's will keep holding on. 71R's will start to fall off eventually.
71R's get less squirmy, and show less temp fade when they get to about half life. Everyone whines so much about how these tyres "fall off". Again...they're not an enduro tyre. So don't use them for enduro races. For a stock power/weight S2000, they're totally fine for 15-20min sessions unless you're on a 100+ degree ambient setting.
I've gotten them slightly greasy on hot days if I get really agressive. I can also just put down fast laps early on in the session.
05-21-2017, 05:03 PM
#12
So is the 71r an auto cross tire? I can deal with some warm up time. I tend to drive more agressive later in my sessions anyway.
Between a tire that is at peak performance from laps 4-20 (say 20 lap session), or one that is peaking at 2-18, I would rather have the former. I like to keep building speed without the tire falling off at the 20-25 minute mark.
Between a tire that is at peak performance from laps 4-20 (say 20 lap session), or one that is peaking at 2-18, I would rather have the former. I like to keep building speed without the tire falling off at the 20-25 minute mark.
05-21-2017, 05:08 PM
#13
05-21-2017, 05:28 PM
#14
The 71R is for track days, autocross, and time trials. Anything where you want to lay down your fastest laps quick. Its not optimal for learning a track or pacing yourself.
If you're pacing yourself...a tyre that lasts longer can (should) be used.
NT01's are race tyres with shitty wet traction. Which makes me assume this is a DRY use only situation. So...I'm not entirely sure why they're on the list but A7's are out.
Either way, the NT01 is a good choice for actual racing. You're kinda wasting them by warming them up for a 25min spin followed by a 1hr+ cool down.
71R is probably what you want, in terms of cost for result. Unless your enviornment is a bit hotter than average.
If you're pacing yourself...a tyre that lasts longer can (should) be used.
NT01's are race tyres with shitty wet traction. Which makes me assume this is a DRY use only situation. So...I'm not entirely sure why they're on the list but A7's are out.
Either way, the NT01 is a good choice for actual racing. You're kinda wasting them by warming them up for a 25min spin followed by a 1hr+ cool down.
71R is probably what you want, in terms of cost for result. Unless your enviornment is a bit hotter than average.
05-21-2017, 08:38 PM
#16
Hoosier A7/R7 are 100% legal street tire however not their intended manufacturer's purpose obviously
they are the stickiest street tire you can buy that are DOT (Department of Transportation)
a racing slick is something like a Michelin Blue, which is not DOT approved, and therefore not legal to drive on public roads.
they are the stickiest street tire you can buy that are DOT (Department of Transportation)
a racing slick is something like a Michelin Blue, which is not DOT approved, and therefore not legal to drive on public roads.
Last edited by s2000Junky; 05-21-2017 at 08:42 PM.
05-21-2017, 08:41 PM
#17
05-22-2017, 02:21 AM
#18
Me and my buddies just had this debate about a year ago when I was considering running them temporally on the street. I would beg anyone to roll up to state patrol and have them wave you by with these on your car. They are a full slick minus one groove. But beyond that, the top of the tire carcass is very thin, and just asking for easy punctures. Its not a street able tire. And I am very hesitant to say its actually legal on any public highway, with all but a technicality you can fight in court when you get your ticket. If a cop wants to chime in and state otherwise, I will stand corrected.
However...they are not RECOMMENDED for road use for a multitude of reasons. And once the 4/32" of "tread" wears to 2/32, they are no longer legal. I doubt cops keep treadwear gauges with them. You might get hassled. But they are DOT legal.
NT01's are also not RECOMMENDED for road use. For a multitude of reasons.
