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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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Ok so for the last couple of track events ive been experiencing fuel starvation with anything less than a full tank. I can do a few hot laps (10-12 minutes) I started shopping around and found that they are quite expensive, ranging anywhere from 700 to 1000 from different vendors.

I did a quick search and came across this.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/753...e+tank__st__25

Anyone else fab up something like this? I feel i can build one rather inexpensive also. I made sure that the new pump was at the same height fit as the oem one. I think i may need to take it off the factory mount clip and let it hang a littler lower. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to use one of these.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/

Luckily for me almost all of my local tracks don't have long left ganders where we fuel starve.
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ddess
I'm still waiting for someone to use one of these.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/

Luckily for me almost all of my local tracks don't have long left ganders where we fuel starve.
Riverside at BRP going CCW?
The bowl at CVR going CCW?
Bowl at SOWS going CCW?
Roval at ACS?

I don't fuel starve because i'm slow... haha
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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I only starve CCW at CVR and BW through the sweeper.

Rarely run those directions.

Still want an inexpensive solution.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by APoner
Ok so for the last couple of track events ive been experiencing fuel starvation with anything less than a full tank. I can do a few hot laps (10-12 minutes) I started shopping around and found that they are quite expensive, ranging anywhere from 700 to 1000 from different vendors.

I did a quick search and came across this.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/753...e+tank__st__25

Anyone else fab up something like this? I feel i can build one rather inexpensive also. I made sure that the new pump was at the same height fit as the oem one. I think i may need to take it off the factory mount clip and let it hang a littler lower. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys
I did the research on 99SH's solution, and I think it is the most cost effective way to do it. If you want it all as a kit, then I would probably go with the Full Blown solution.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
Originally Posted by APoner' timestamp='1441038170' post='23732305
Ok so for the last couple of track events ive been experiencing fuel starvation with anything less than a full tank. I can do a few hot laps (10-12 minutes) I started shopping around and found that they are quite expensive, ranging anywhere from 700 to 1000 from different vendors.

I did a quick search and came across this.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/753...e+tank__st__25

Anyone else fab up something like this? I feel i can build one rather inexpensive also. I made sure that the new pump was at the same height fit as the oem one. I think i may need to take it off the factory mount clip and let it hang a littler lower. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys
I did the research on 99SH's solution, and I think it is the most cost effective way to do it. If you want it all as a kit, then I would probably go with the Full Blown solution.
Im going to copy 99SH but execute it a little different. Im going to start ordering things up this weekend.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by APoner
Originally Posted by King Tut' timestamp='1441225792' post='23734994
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Ok so for the last couple of track events ive been experiencing fuel starvation with anything less than a full tank. I can do a few hot laps (10-12 minutes) I started shopping around and found that they are quite expensive, ranging anywhere from 700 to 1000 from different vendors.

I did a quick search and came across this.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/753...e+tank__st__25

Anyone else fab up something like this? I feel i can build one rather inexpensive also. I made sure that the new pump was at the same height fit as the oem one. I think i may need to take it off the factory mount clip and let it hang a littler lower. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys
I did the research on 99SH's solution, and I think it is the most cost effective way to do it. If you want it all as a kit, then I would probably go with the Full Blown solution.
Im going to copy 99SH but execute it a little different. Im going to start ordering things up this weekend.
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Awesome. Hit me up if you need help. I started a spreadsheet with links and prices on the parts as well.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 06:59 PM
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Hey guys - just a minor update to my fuel surge setup. I had initially drilled a hole in the fuel pump sender unit to install a pass-thru fitting for the return line. I found some fuel vapor to leak out and couldn't seal that 100% including use of some fancy fuel sealants. What I ended up doing is purchasing a fuel pump assy from ebay (used) for about $40 and installing that in my car.



The white unit interchangeable; however you'll need to swap the black ring from your MY06+ as the hole pattern is different. I believe you also need to use your MY06 rubber gasket which is directly underneath that black ring. The benefit in this approach is that there's already a return fitting directly on the pump assembly. You can use those Russell quick fittings and have a nice tight seal.

I was previously getting EVAP leak errors using the drilled assembly; but with the pre-MY06 unit my EVAP is working with no error codes.
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 05:17 AM
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You should update your thread for the AP2 guys. Im going to be doing what you did now. Do you have pics of the male end of the fittings? I plan on just running my lines through the fuel pump access door and using this.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/3L-Aluminium...be0977&vxp=mtr

based on its size i think i can mount this and an inline pump where the spare tire use to go.
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by APoner
You should update your thread for the AP2 guys. Im going to be doing what you did now. Do you have pics of the male end of the fittings? I plan on just running my lines through the fuel pump access door and using this.


http://www.ebay.com/...1be0977&vxp=mtr

based on its size i think i can mount this and an inline pump where the spare tire use to go.
Looking forward to feedback on how this works out! Much more affordable than other solutions. What pump will you be using?

On another note, has anyone found an easy solution to connect Hydramat to the OEM fuel pump?
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