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HondaGal |
Posted: Aug 9 2002, 06:07 AM
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The internet is like cowboy country![]() S2KI User #: 118 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 122 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red ![]() |
Suggestions For Beginners/Occasional Washers/Waxers
Z1 Polish Lok or ZFX accelerant You need one of these - it is the base for the "system". Get ZFX if you intend to do multiple coats at a time - for the deeper shine - or if you are planning on using Zaino in a cold or very humid climate Z2 Clear coat Polish (you can swap Z2 for Z5 if you want to save $; see next) Z5 Swirl Remover & Polish (especially if you have a dark car; you can sub Z5 for Z2 if you want to save $) Z6 Gloss Enhancer & Quick Detail Spray Z7 Car Wash Suggestions For Enthusiasts * all of the above, plus: Z18 Clay bar (prep for the whole deal) Z16 Tire Gloss (good on tires and on flat black exterior trim) Sal from Zaino recommends: For beginners, I recommend getting one each of either Z-1 Polish Lok or the New ZFX accelerator, Z-2 Show Car Polish (Z-3 if you don't have a clear-coated finish), Z-5 for Swirls, Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray and Z-18 ClayBar. If you're a first timer and prefer to order a different combination just be sure to get Z-1 or the new ZFX. It is necessary before applying any of the Zaino polishes. Quantity Tips If you're inclined to order multiple quantities, keep in mind you'll use 2x to 3x more Z6 and Z7 than anything else. Don’t order more than 1 bottle of Z1 -- it lasts forever. Get an extra polish applicator or two -- they work great and eventually wear out. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS I'm ordering Zaino...... but what about waxing the car? You will not beat the UV protection, gloss, and durability you get with Zaino. You should not use wax once you start using Zaino. Waxes generally contain carnauba. Carnauba will provide a shine, but it is not optically clear like Zaino, which is why Zaino has a deep wet gloss look. Carnauba wax also does not stay on the paint that long as heat will break the wax down. Some waxes also contain silicone, which is great for shine, but does attract dust like a magnet and also leaves white marks in cracks (like between the hood and fenders) that are hard to get out with towels. How do I get started with Zaino? Wash the car using Dawn dishwashing liquid soap. Dawn will strip off the old wax and other grease/grime build up so your paint will be clean for your first application of Zaino. After applying Z1, how long do I have to wait for it to dry before I apply Z2/Z5? Z1 is a quick drying solution. By the time you’ve finished applying Z1, you are ready to apply Z2/Z5 directly over Z1. Do not remove Z1 before applying Z2/Z5, Z1 helps bond Z2/Z5 to the paint. It’s time to reapply Z1. Do I need remove the old coats of Z2/Z5 by washing with Dawn? No, according to Sal at Zainobros, Dawn will not remove Z2 or Z5. Just wash your cars as you normally do, and apply Z1 followed by Z2 or Z5. What’s the best way to apply Z1, Z2, or Z5? Z-1 should be applied in a circular motion. Once you're finished applying Z-1, you should immediately apply the Z-2 in a back-and-forth motion (bumper to windshield) on horizontal surfaces and up-and-down motion on vertical surfaces. I’m having a hard time taking off Z2/Z5, what’s wrong and/or how long does it take to dry? Either you have applied it too thickly or it’s not fully dry. The proper way to apply Z2/Z5 is to lightly dampen the applicator (you can also squirt Z6 lightly on the applicator after), and apply a few stripes of Z2/Z5 to the applicator. Rub the stripes with your finger to spread the polish out evenly over the applicator. Then apply the polish to your car in thin even coats. Z1 with Z2/Z5 or Z2/Z5 applied alone will take anywhere from one to six hours or more depending on the outside temperature and humidity. Colder temperatures and high humidity will take longer to dry than warmer less humid conditions. To test for dryness, rub your finger on a spot, if it smears, then the polish is not dry. ZFX will substantially speed up the drying process for any climate and is highly recommended for cold weather and high humidity areas. How soon before I can apply another coat of Z2/Z5? You will need to wait at least eight hours (in hotter less humid climates) and up to 24 hours is recommended in high humidity environments. Typically how many coats of Zaino does everyone get out of the small mixing bottle (comes with the ZFX) and how long does it last? On average, most people get two to three coats worth by mixing one ounce of Z2/Z5 with four drops of ZFX. The combined solution will only be usable for up to twelve hours. After that, the polish and mixing bottle should be thrown away as it will be impossible to completely clean the mixing bottle. If you clean the mixing bottle before the twelve hour mark, you should be able to reuse the bottle. Can I use a machine like an orbital buffer to apply/remove Z2/Z5? Yes you can, but it’s not recommended. By using a buffer to apply the product, you will be adding more polish to the pad than you need, thus wasting the polish. To remove the polish with a buffer, you cannot accomplish this with a single pad. You must use a 100% cotton towel folded between the pad and the paint and will have to frequently turn and re-fold the towel to ensure a clean surface of the towel touching the paint. Z2 and Z5 are very easy to apply and remove by hand that you should not need to use a machine to accomplish this. Why am I getting so much dust build up after I applied Z2/Z5? You are not following up with Z6 after you take off Z2/Z5. Z6 is a gloss enhancer, but also contains anti-static properties to repel dust. Without using Z6 after removing the polish dust will attract to your car. What kind of towel can I use to remove the polish? Zaino recommends using 100% cotton brand name towels such as Cannon or FieldCrest. Although some towel may say they are 100% cotton, they are not. Also remember that the stitching and borders around the towel may cause scratches, so it’s best to remove them. Some have used microfiber towels with success but there are some that may scratch your paint. If you want to be 100% sure that your towel will not scratch the paint, stick to the Cannon or FieldCrest towels. I’m getting streaks after applying Z6, I thought Z6 wasn’t supposed to streak? Z6 is a super concentrated solution, therefore you should use it sparingly. To remove the streaks, simply spray Z6 over the affected area and wipe off again. For more information, visit Zaino Brothers --------------------
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Draff1 |
Posted: Mar 27 2003, 01:50 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 21931 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 321 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Black Richmond ![]() |
What is the general consensus on Zaino Bro's stuff?
Seems like a lot of work for average results. -------------------- :cat: |
Scuba Driver |
Posted: Apr 9 2003, 07:11 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1373 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 358 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2001 Spa/Indy Yellow/Black Austin ![]() |
In my opinion nothing could be further from the truth. The investment of time and effort is upfront, but maintenance is pretty darn easy. As for the results, it is FAR better than "average". I have never seen any product give as deep a wet look as Zaino. my $0.02. I've put it on several cars now and wouldn't use anything else. One thing for sure, DON'T skip the claybar step! -------------------- Jeff
01' #3318 Spa Yellow Pearl Muz Mats inside and Zaino outside :) U Gotta Luv these cars :D :D |
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mikes2k |
Posted: Apr 10 2003, 06:09 AM
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Gold Member![]() S2KI User #: 3112 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 235 days PPD Average: 28.3 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Custom Pt. A to Pt. B via VTEC!! ![]() |
Well said! I am amazed how easy the car washes with several coats of Zaino:thumbup: -------------------- '01 Silverstone/Black/Gray custom interior <--- all mods listed here TiVo Series2 80 Hour, NO LONGER stock, BOOSTED to 248 hours!! Have kids/nieces/nephews that need educational gifts? Our family business is an educational supply store. I give discounts to S2ki members. PM me http://catalog.painelearning.com/ http://homepage.mac.com/mikes2k<<<<<<<My S2k Album, Stereo Pics, Meets, videos It goes to show you don't ever know, Watch each card you play and play it slow, Wait until your deal come round: Robert Hunter "Americans are tired of investigations and scandal, and the best way to get rid of them is to elect a new president who will bring a new administration, who will restore honor and dignity to the White House." [Then-Governor George Bush on CNN's "Burden of Proof," 9/15/00] Proud to be a voting American! Proud I did NOT vote for him TWICE! :egads: It is the holidays for goodness sake! Shouldn't everyone have one? ---> Corrugated Fireplace
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excia |
Posted: May 2 2003, 01:13 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 16175 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 104 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 New Formula Red/Black Cincinnati ![]() |
Regarding the "don't skip the clay bar step," washing wish Dawn won't do it?
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xviper |
Posted: May 2 2003, 02:55 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1612 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 332 days PPD Average: 11.6 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Black ![]() |
The clay, apparently, will make a real difference in how clean and smooth your paint is prior to putting on the Zaino polish. Of course, this is an individual choice that not all users will pick. I didn't but those who do use the clay, swear by it. The dawn removes all old wax and much of the dirt and debris. The clay bar takes out almost all of the remaining contaminants that is unavoidably imbedded in the paint.
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PWRMKR |
Posted: May 11 2003, 02:15 PM
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Gold Member![]() S2KI User #: 13025 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 177 days PPD Average: 1 Owner 2001 Spa/Indy Yellow/Black Mount Rainier ![]() |
One thing you might want to do is,
After the dawn, claybar, rewash thing...do some paint touch-up This is the best time. The finish has no wax, grease, or other problems that might interfere with adhesion. You have looked over the whole car. You now know where touch-up areas are. Get Some --------------------
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HondaGal |
Posted: May 15 2004, 07:40 PM
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The internet is like cowboy country![]() S2KI User #: 118 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 122 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red ![]() |
WHERE TO GET ZAINO
(distributor list) This list is not official, as zainobros did not want to provide us with a list. So, we are going to try and compile our own the best we can. Please post the distributors name, and contact number or email. wanabe will keep this thread compiled and clean. USA Distributor in Seattle, WA Duane Lodell 206-579-4180 email: dwlodell@qwest.net Distributor in Raleigh, NC Ken Stark 2615 Barwick Dr. 919-616-2731 email: starkken@mindspring.com Distributor in Charlotte, NC Steve Treece Carolina Shine (704)759-0142 email: cashine@juno.com Shore Motorsports 6770 Rt 9 south Howell, NJ 07731 (732) 364-7997 Carl Voellm Huntingdon Valley, PA (215) 938-0991 Email: carl@hcvind.com THE GLOSS BOSS 3953 Towhess Dr. Indianapolis, IN 46237 317-859-8449 Joie Yuen Aiea, HI 96701 808-487-7467 Email: aejj@aloha.net Southern California Robyn & Ira Emus www.lazaino.com cell is 310 722-1449 fax is 310 694-0123 phone 310-478-4092 Northern California Steve Paski (408) 629-4931 http://www.sjzaino.com https://www.ultramicrofiber.com Chip (Vrm Vrm - name on this forum) www.sportscarcare.com CANADA Mike Adams Crown Auto Emporium 325 Eramosa Rd. Guelph, Ontario N1E 2N1 (519)763-8473 Email: mike@zaino.ca INTERNATIONAL Alex Terzic Bad Kissinger, Germany +49 971 61817 http://www.viper-lifestyle.de Email: alexander.terzic@t-online.de CAZ Comp Chandra Kumar Singapore, 34913 65-285-1778 Email: zymga@singnet.com.sg U.K. Distributor: https://vault1.secured-url.com/car/products...1&PARTNER=s2kuk |
wanabe |
Posted: May 15 2004, 09:13 PM
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Moderator![]() S2KI User #: 162 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 121 days PPD Average: 4.1 Owner 2000 Berlina Black/Black manhattan beach, calif ![]() |
also if you know of a change in distributors, please pm me so i can modify this list.
-------------------- chief wacko, wash n wax forum me: wanabe in my S2K! my car: darkvader '00 black/black #8382 S2KCA Member!
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Beave0101 |
Posted: May 17 2004, 05:15 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 17461 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 71 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Irvine ![]() |
so just to verify, is the ZFX Accelerator a 100% replacement for the Z1?
as in, replace every time "Z1" is used, and ZFX works the same way ? |
xviper |
Posted: May 17 2004, 07:34 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1612 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 332 days PPD Average: 11.6 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Black ![]() |
Not quite. Z1 is only ever used for the first time in any start of a process (ie, when the car is new to Zaino or when you have stripped off previous Zaino in preparation to do it again from scratch). ZFX replaces Z1 but can be used with any and every coat of Z2 or Z5 thereafter to accelerate the curing/drying phase. |
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AquilaEagle |
Posted: May 22 2004, 10:04 AM
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Admin![]() S2KI User #: 18211 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 51 days PPD Average: 34.3 Owner 2009 GrandPrix White/Black-Red 2002 Silverstone/Black-Red ![]() |
H.R. Parts - N - Stuff
537 Pinewood Street, Oshawa Ontario L1G 2S2 Contact Info: Dennis Fraser (Homer2 - forum name) E-Mail: Zainoguy@durham.net Phone: (905) 579-3488 - Cell (905) 767-5265 Chip (Vrm Vrm - forum name) www.sportscarcare.com -------------------- "Please take good care of your S2000, keep it by your side for long and enjoy it from the bottom of your heart and share the quality and legacy of the S2000 with many friends so that the legend of the S2000 will continue for long." - Shigeru Uehara - Chief Designer, S2000 - 12th April 2009, Trentino, Italy "S2000 came from a dream; it was built with passion and even though production will end on 7th August the dream will live on, so please keep it by your side for long!" - Mr. Aoki - Honda Collection Centre - S2000 Final Production Tour 11th July 2009, Motegi, Japan ![]()
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wanabe |
Posted: Jun 7 2004, 07:49 AM
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Moderator![]() S2KI User #: 162 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 121 days PPD Average: 4.1 Owner 2000 Berlina Black/Black manhattan beach, calif ![]() |
really two distributors in ontario, canada??
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DragonHeart |
Posted: Jul 14 2004, 02:24 PM
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Gold Member![]() S2KI User #: 29407 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 152 days PPD Average: 12.1 Owner 2002 GrandPrix White/Red Redondo Beach,CA ![]() |
I'm knew to the club and some of the products,so let me ask.....
What is so great about the Zaino product line?????I'm very interested in all the details........ Thanks ahead of time..... --------------------
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wanabe |
Posted: Aug 18 2004, 11:32 AM
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Moderator![]() S2KI User #: 162 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 121 days PPD Average: 4.1 Owner 2000 Berlina Black/Black manhattan beach, calif ![]() |
a true enthusiasts product... time intensive, but it is a very long lasting and deep shine. |
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Toxis |
Posted: Sep 5 2004, 09:08 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 34449 S2KI Age: 5 yrs 303 days PPD Average: 0.2 Enthusiast Kansas City ![]() |
How often do you end up having to apply Zaino products? Is this a process you have to do once a month? 3 months? 6-12?
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wanabe |
Posted: Sep 12 2004, 03:23 PM
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Moderator![]() S2KI User #: 162 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 121 days PPD Average: 4.1 Owner 2000 Berlina Black/Black manhattan beach, calif ![]() |
6 mos will prob do it... although i have never gotten close- numerous coats and i keep adding them. and lately i have been using more p21s over the zaino. i do that about once a month. |
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AquilaEagle |
Posted: Nov 16 2004, 10:46 AM
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Admin![]() S2KI User #: 18211 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 51 days PPD Average: 34.3 Owner 2009 GrandPrix White/Black-Red 2002 Silverstone/Black-Red ![]() |
UK Distributor now set up use this link:
https://vault1.secured-url.com/car/products...1&PARTNER=s2kuk |
wanabe |
Posted: Nov 16 2004, 01:04 PM
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Moderator![]() S2KI User #: 162 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 121 days PPD Average: 4.1 Owner 2000 Berlina Black/Black manhattan beach, calif ![]() |
will update the list... thx! |
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Revs9k 01 |
Posted: Dec 23 2004, 08:19 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 34602 S2KI Age: 5 yrs 297 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2001 GrandPrix White/Red Miami, FL ![]() |
after dawn and using the clay bar all over the car and adding a lil z6 to the car to wash the bar film away, do i clean the car with dawn, z7, or leave it like this and add the z5 with zfx????????? or do i not even use a lil z6??????
Do i add the z5 with zfx to the whole car and then buff off or work in small areas like i normally would wax the car?????? after adding the z5 activated by zfx and buffing it, do i clean it with z7 and then start the new coat but this time with z2????????? This post has been edited by Revs9k 01 on Dec 23 2004, 08:21 AM -------------------- ![]()
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Zaino guy |
Posted: May 27 2005, 02:19 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 46974 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 258 days PPD Average: 0 Enthusiast ![]() |
Yes, and it gives the ability to add 3 coats in a 24 hour period plus quick dry time. This post has been edited by Zaino guy on May 27 2005, 02:23 PM |
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Zaino guy |
Posted: May 27 2005, 02:21 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 46974 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 258 days PPD Average: 0 Enthusiast ![]() |
Ron Williams Owasso, Ok. Authorized Zaino Dist. DF Microfiber Towels 918-810-1968 Zaino@cox.net |
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musicalVTEC |
Posted: May 27 2005, 02:39 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 5911 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 93 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Black Cleveland ![]() |
What's the difference between Z2 and Z5? I bought the starter kit from the zainobros website and it comes with both - do they both do the same thing, and if so then why are both included in the kit? Thanks.
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Zaino guy |
Posted: May 27 2005, 03:04 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 46974 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 258 days PPD Average: 0 Enthusiast ![]() |
The Z5 is for filing SLIGHT swirls if you have any. The Z2 is used after you achieve the finish you want with the Z5. |
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MikeyC |
Posted: Jun 9 2005, 06:55 PM
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Wash & Wax-aholic S2KI User #: 44597 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 323 days PPD Average: 2 Enthusiast Newton, MA ![]() |
I don't know . . . I just have a hard time using any car cleaning product that recommends the use of dawn dish washing liquid
This post has been edited by MikeyC on Jun 9 2005, 06:55 PM -------------------- Read the onlyDetailing Guide written specifically for the Honda S2000
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