High power question between F20 and F22
#13
Starts with "A lot of misinformation on here." and continues with "in my opinion"
Shouldn't "A lot of misinformation on here" be followed up with actual stats and facts as oppose to opinion?
Shouldn't "A lot of misinformation on here" be followed up with actual stats and facts as oppose to opinion?
A lot of misinformation on here. The ap1 and ap2 diffs are both equally weak in my opinion but if you dont launch the car you will be fine. The 03 ap1 has had the banjo bolt issue fixed already. The only difference would really be the intake retainers on the ap2 but as long as the ap1 has not had a mechanical over rev it should be fine as well.
#14
when you find solid data confirming which one is better you can comment but until then its nothing but opinions based on personal opinions and experiences. Thanks for chiming in though.
#16
Maybe not an 00-01 Ap1 since the oil squirters and intake retainers were issues, but on the 02-03 with AP2 retainers swapped in, there is no stats or specs that I've ever seen to say the F22 is more reliable. Curious behind your reasoning why an F22 would last longer than a late model F20 with updated retainers, I'd bet they were equal all things considered.
#17
Maybe not an 00-01 Ap1 since the oil squirters and intake retainers were issues, but on the 02-03 with AP2 retainers swapped in, there is no stats or specs that I've ever seen to say the F22 is more reliable. Curious behind your reasoning why an F22 would last longer than a late model F20 with updated retainers, I'd bet they were equal all things considered.
#18
Ap2 retainers will last longer than ap1 any day. I misshift all the time and overrev and not a single problem. If I misshift in an ap1 once I bet it will drop a valve on the same track day.
#19
I'm not disagreeing. I have AP2 retainers in my 2003 F20. What I'm saying is that a late AP1 engine, with upgraded retainers should be every bit as reliable as an F22. I've never seen any data to show that an F22 will outlast an F20 considering that comparison, unless I'm missing something is seems like a guess that either engine would last longer than the other in that scenario.
#20
The real question here is: Do you want the longer stroke, yes or no.
This depends on how much rpm you want the engine to make