Turbo vs. SC: 0-60 and 0-100 times?
11-25-2006, 05:06 PM
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Turbo vs. SC: 0-60 and 0-100 times?
Any timeslips to show actual differences in the two setup times?
What about 0-60 and 0-100 mph times?
Thanks in advance,
Brett
What about 0-60 and 0-100 mph times?
Thanks in advance,
Brett
11-25-2006, 07:14 PM
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They all depend on how you launch. When my SC was at 355whp, I put like half a car on a C55 up to 60 mph. Considering their 0-60 is around 4.9 ish, mine was around 4.7.
BTW, Turbo is not faster up to 60mph. Actually it will be slower but up to 100mph, Turbo will be faster
BTW, Turbo is not faster up to 60mph. Actually it will be slower but up to 100mph, Turbo will be faster
11-25-2006, 09:37 PM
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When you launch, you will have to wait until the turbo builds up boost whereas with SC, it starts boosting right away. The power of the turbo reveals itself in 3rd gear because it will alread have built boost whereas SC will have to till reach full boost at 9K.
To give an example, when I raced my friends Turbo S2000, we started from 3000 rpm and he couldn't pass me on 2nd even though he has 60whp more than me. (He flew away in 3rd but still...)
To give an example, when I raced my friends Turbo S2000, we started from 3000 rpm and he couldn't pass me on 2nd even though he has 60whp more than me. (He flew away in 3rd but still...)
11-26-2006, 07:50 AM
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Alright...I read two of your posts and couldn't keep quiet after this last one. You are wrong. Yes, there's a bit of turbo lag. HOWEVER, if you compare the boost supercharger guys (including myself) make to boost turbo guys make at, say 4000rpm, there's absolutely NO comparison. At 4000rpm most turbo guys make FULL boost (that could be 15lbs, 20lbs, 10lbs...depends on the setup). (Your friend must have a very large turbo setup with lotsa lag for you to beat him in any gear, at any rpm) Our superchargers (both centrifugal) are designed to build boost proportionately to rpm's so we don't build full boost until redline...hence our top end feels SOOOO much stronger than our low end. Turbo guys have FAR improved power in the low end because they make full boost so much sooner. If you look at the dyno/torque charts there's really no comparison. So, you're wrong: Assuming = Boost setups, turbo setups are faster no matter what the race. They always make more torque, too.
Now, if you're running a big boost supercharger setup you can close the gap. Sideways has proven this. The reason is that the more boost you run with a centrifugal SC, the more boost you get down low and this really helps increase power across the rpm range. But, you'll never make as much boost down low as the equivalent boost turbo setup...making the car slower in much of rpm range. In addition, turbo setups typically make more torque than the equivalent SC setup. Now, if you wanna talk about simplicity and reliability...hehe Suiting up!
Now, if you're running a big boost supercharger setup you can close the gap. Sideways has proven this. The reason is that the more boost you run with a centrifugal SC, the more boost you get down low and this really helps increase power across the rpm range. But, you'll never make as much boost down low as the equivalent boost turbo setup...making the car slower in much of rpm range. In addition, turbo setups typically make more torque than the equivalent SC setup. Now, if you wanna talk about simplicity and reliability...hehe Suiting up!
11-26-2006, 08:29 AM
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[QUOTE=CourageOO7,Nov 26 2006, 08:50 AM]But, you'll never make as much boost down low as the equivalent boost turbo setup...making the car slower in much of rpm range.
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11-26-2006, 03:46 PM
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You can clearly see that I have a 11psi setup on my Vortech and my friend has a GT35 which creates more lag than other turbos. What I was trying to state is that from 0 to 60, SC will pull on Turbo but the Turbo will close the gap probably up to end of 2nd and then keep on pulling...