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Originally Posted by josh7owens' timestamp='1319501054' post='21097731
Tom-
Yea when they rebuild them and put on new shorter shock on I think I'm going to leave off the helper spring since it's scaring up the shock body. I'll prolly leave them in the front of the car though.
Yea when they rebuild them and put on new shorter shock on I think I'm going to leave off the helper spring since it's scaring up the shock body. I'll prolly leave them in the front of the car though.
they are but as you can see they have rubed the dust cap and scratched it up. I'm guessing the clearence is so tight that any wiggle in the spring at all it moves enough to come incontact with. So should I run the helper spring and but it on the bottom instead of the top of the spring? This will keep it from rubbing the shock body. Random1 (Rob) doesn't run rear helper springs...
look at the helper spring perch and look at the dust cap.. you can see what rubs.
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http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f.../photo_04.html
on this setup, if you put zero pre-load on the springs, you will essentially take away almost all the shock travel showing b/t the top and bottom of the helper spring thus shortening the total travel available b/c the shock shaft is now further into the shock body while the car is resting on the main spring.
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064' timestamp='1319501964' post='21097777
No, that's not how it works.
Think of it this way - when you put the car down the helper is fully compressed into a spacer. Therefore it's no different than moving the spring perch up since it's just a spacer.
Think of it this way - when you put the car down the helper is fully compressed into a spacer. Therefore it's no different than moving the spring perch up since it's just a spacer.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f.../photo_04.html
on this setup, if you put zero pre-load on the springs, you will essentially take away almost all the shock travel showing b/t the top and bottom of the helper spring thus shortening the total travel available b/c the shock shaft is now further into the shock body while the car is resting on the main spring.
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Originally Posted by berny2435' timestamp='1319503431' post='21097853
[quote name='IntegraR0064' timestamp='1319501964' post='21097777']
No, that's not how it works.
Think of it this way - when you put the car down the helper is fully compressed into a spacer. Therefore it's no different than moving the spring perch up since it's just a spacer.
No, that's not how it works.
Think of it this way - when you put the car down the helper is fully compressed into a spacer. Therefore it's no different than moving the spring perch up since it's just a spacer.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f.../photo_04.html
on this setup, if you put zero pre-load on the springs, you will essentially take away almost all the shock travel showing b/t the top and bottom of the helper spring thus shortening the total travel available b/c the shock shaft is now further into the shock body while the car is resting on the main spring.
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Exactly, thanks for typing that.
As another option you could maybe go with 2.5" springs? I'm assuming you're using something smaller than that if you're having ID clearance issues.
Are you using helper spring guides? They might help too.
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I'm using 2.25" springs. Not sure what a helper spring guide is but basicly theres the lower spring (the adjustable one on the shock body), then the spring, another perch (black thing in picture), helper spring, tophat/upper perch. So right now for the shock to compress more then 40mm it has to slide the body inside of the helper spring perch and inside the helper spring if it compresses that much. I was thinking if I put the helper spring and that perch under the main spring then the body wouldn't have to pass through these when compressing more then 40mm. When the car is on the ground the helper spring and helper perch would just act as the spring perch right?
I don't want my new shock bodys scatched up
I don't want my new shock bodys scatched up
#27
Right, exactly. I've never put them upside down like that but I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work, again making sure that the weight of the spring doesn't unseat everything making the helper spring useless.
And yes, the "black thing" is presumably a helper spring guide.
2.5" springs would give you more clearance if you want to be very sure, koni sells adapters.
And yes, the "black thing" is presumably a helper spring guide.
2.5" springs would give you more clearance if you want to be very sure, koni sells adapters.
#29
Shocks: Penske 8300
Shock Body Length: Front = TBD " --- Rear = TBD"
Valving: Custom
Pistons: Front Compression - Linear
Front Rebound - Linear
Rear Compression - Linear
Rear Rebound - Linear
Springs: Hyperco 6" 800f/600r
Car: 2006 S2000 AP2
Ride height: 12.75"f/12.5"r hub center to metal fender edge
Tires: 255/40R17 Hankook RS3
Wheels: Volk CE28 17x9
Shock Body Length: Front = TBD " --- Rear = TBD"
Valving: Custom
Pistons: Front Compression - Linear
Front Rebound - Linear
Rear Compression - Linear
Rear Rebound - Linear
Springs: Hyperco 6" 800f/600r
Car: 2006 S2000 AP2
Ride height: 12.75"f/12.5"r hub center to metal fender edge
Tires: 255/40R17 Hankook RS3
Wheels: Volk CE28 17x9
#30
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The "take up springs" that I use on the bottom are Hypercoil 25 lb/in. and they are 4" long.
http://pitstopusa.com/i-5077505-hype...i-d-25-lb.html
http://pitstopusa.com/i-5077505-hype...i-d-25-lb.html