Was the FIA in the right at Indy?
Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jun 23 2005, 10:05 AM
I agree with #1 100%, #2 however I'm really afraid you are wrong. I see Bridgestone staying with the FIA and Ferrari and Michelin staying with the entire breakaway series. The last year the concord agreement is in play should be very interesting, because as I see it now, it is going to be Ferrari racingf against themselves as everybody else seems more than happy to go in the opposite direction of the FIA.
Doug, it's all conjecture at this point but I'm not willing to bet against F1/FIA. I personally don't think this "breakaway series" is going to amount to anything. The other manufacturers have proved this year that they can indeed take on Ferrari using the same set of rules and I'm willing to bet that there's less support for the GPWC or whatever than there was 6 months ago. Bernie et al will make some concessions from the TV revenue and all will be as we know it today. Michelin can go off and sulk in a different sandbox but it won't be in the premiere (or even any) open wheel series
J.P., I hope like hell you are right, or in other words, I would love to be wrong. 
Candy, I have not read that but I believe ya. That would be so great if BMW alligned themselves with FIA. And yes, BMW has bought controling interest in Sauber.

Candy, I have not read that but I believe ya. That would be so great if BMW alligned themselves with FIA. And yes, BMW has bought controling interest in Sauber.
Originally Posted by Ludedude,Jun 23 2005, 08:53 AM
You think if Bridgestone had a similar problem that the seven Michelin teams would have been willing to "compromise" for them? 

Brazil 2003, Huge rain. Bridgestone only brought intermediate tires whereas Michelin correctly brought Intermediates AND Full Wets.
What did the FIA do? Tell Bridgestone to drive slower because they had the wrong tires? Nope. They delayed the race till much later in the day when the track was dryer.
Either way they compromised the race including running MANY laps behind the pace car because Bridgestone had the wrong tires.
They could have deployed the pace car every 10 laps to slow the field down at indy too.
They could have deployed the pace car every 10 laps to slow the field down at indy too.
My reports don't jibe with yours, so I'm not sure what really happened. From what I see, there were 8 laps done behind the safety car for wet conditions; I don't believe they brought the safety car out after that for any other reason besides normal racing incidents.
We may never really know what happened but one thing's for sure, there's a huge difference between going out and running regardless and packing up your toys and going to your room.
We may never really know what happened but one thing's for sure, there's a huge difference between going out and running regardless and packing up your toys and going to your room.
Yes of course, But the FIA has shown themselves to be far more willing to compromise for Ferrari/Bridgestone than GPWC/Michelins.
But then again, if you were telling me that you were leaving my series, I'd be a lot less likely to bend rules for you.
They've all forgot that the show must go on. And all 3 parties (Michelin, FIA, and Teams) did thier best to be as rigid and unwilling to make the race happen.
But then again, if you were telling me that you were leaving my series, I'd be a lot less likely to bend rules for you.
They've all forgot that the show must go on. And all 3 parties (Michelin, FIA, and Teams) did thier best to be as rigid and unwilling to make the race happen.
Originally Posted by krazik,Jun 23 2005, 11:37 AM
They've all forgot that the show must go on. And all 3 parties (Michelin, FIA, and Teams) did thier best to be as rigid and unwilling to make the race happen.
Originally Posted by krazik,Jun 23 2005, 01:37 PM
And all 3 parties (Michelin, FIA, and Teams) did thier best to be as rigid and unwilling to make the race happen.
And as far as the "FIA" is concerned, I can not help but wonder if Max had actually come to the race if things could not have worked out somehow. The fact that he was on the other side of the world and this basic fact alone delayed the communication process. I don't know what the solution could have been, but I know there had to be one out there.





