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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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I hope Toyota is successful getting JT's position back.

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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 06:34 AM
I hope Toyota is successful getting JT's position back.

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Jarno was not at fault and I hope the bunglers at the FIA clean up for this mess.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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LH was denied an appeal last year in his wheel to wheel racing with Raikonnen in SPA and got a 25-second penalty added on after he won the race -- so I don't think this should be allowed either if the previous appeal was not allowed.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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I can't believe the penalty handed down to Trulli is not permitted to be appealed!


[QUOTE]Team told me to let Trulli by - Hamilton

Lewis Hamilton has said that his McLaren team told him to let Toyota's Jarno Trulli retake third place in the dying moments of yesterday's Australian Grand Prix, a move which ultimately earned Trulli a 25-second penalty, dropping him to 12th in the final classification. The Toyota driver was running third when the safety car emerged for the late-race clash between Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel, and ran wide onto the grass at the exit of turn 15 on lap 56.

While Hamilton was forced to pass Trulli to avoid stopping, the Briton slowed to let Trulli by on the following lap, with Trulli confirming after the race that he had no option but to overtake Hamilton. Speaking to SpeedTV after the race, Hamilton said:
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 12:08 PM
I can't believe the penalty handed down to Trulli is not permitted to be appealed!

given the information that Hamilton was told to let him pass, the FIA should really re-evaluate it themselves and not penalize. it's ridiculous. but it is the F1 and it's run by a bunch of jackasses, so...
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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In principle, I agree that it's ridiculous.

However I have to say that given the calls against LH last year there is an element of "Karmic Justice" here especially given that JT was one of the most outspoken about Hamilton's driving in one particular incident (and then did the same thing to LH in an on-camera incidient in Oz).
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 09:08 AM
I can't believe the penalty handed down to Trulli is not permitted to be appealed!
Well, the rule is stupid. But it's exactly the same one you were crowing about when McLaren lost their appeal last year. You liked it a lot better then.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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This is another way in which NASCAR is much sharper than F1. Not that they have never screwed up, of course. But almost all the time they would have made a ruling within a lap, and then called in to the drivers on the radio and told them what position they should be in. There would have been no penalties, no guesswork, nothing like that.

Trulli lost the place because he went off track. That should have been the end of the story, and Hamilton should have been third.

But Hamilton has been burned so many times by idiotic penalties that they were afraid to not give the position back.

I guess Trulli should have known better than to take it, but the real flaw is the system. The race director should have just made a ruling at the time, rather than waiting for an after-race penalty.
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