OK, so once again the FIA gives an unappealable 25 second penalty after the race is already over, and once again it favors Ferrari. Whether there is bias or not, the FIA is in serious jeopardy of the appearance of bias.

Did anybody here think SB was in the wrong? I assumed that if they were investigating that incident, then they must have been investigating FM.

 

I didn't think that either SB or FM should have been penalized.

 

I agree. I think FM was at fault, but that there should not have been a penalty.

 

Actually, last night on F1-live, 2 hrs. after the race I read an article that had a sentence saying this proves the FIA is biassed towards ferrari, etc..

Now the same article doesn't have that sentence.

 

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71360

Sebastien Bourdais believes Felipe Massa was completely to blame for their collision at Fuji - even though the stewards decided to penalise Bourdais for the crash.

The Toro Rosso driver was given a 25-second penalty after the race and fell from sixth to 10th, while Massa was consequently elevated from eighth to seventh.

The two cars had come together as Bourdais rejoined after his final pitstop. He pulled out alongside Massa, who tried to drive around the outside of the Toro Rosso at the first corner, only to spin after contact between them.

Bourdais was adamant that Massa was at fault for the incident.

"For me it's very clear. Yes, I exit the pits, yes I'm supposed to be careful and I was," he said. "I stayed inside and I didn't push him out, I didn't overshoot the corner.

"I did everything I could not to run into him and he just squeezed and turned and behaved like I didn't exist, like I wasn't there. What am I supposed to do?

"I've been in this position many, many times and I never had any incidents. It's just a little bit of respect, you give each other room and then everything goes right, but if you don't for sure it's going to be an incident."

The Frenchman added that he would have behaved differently to Massa had he been the one challenging for the title.

"I've been in this position many times, especially the position he is in fighting for championships and you just don't take unnecessary risks like this," said Bourdais.

"You've got everything to lose and nothing to gain. He was going to pit in three laps, I was ahead of him and he was going to finish behind us anyway. Why would you even think about doing something like that? I don't understand."

Despite feeling he was blameless in the incident, Bourdais wasn't surprised to receive a penalty.

"No, because every time I get called to the (stewards) meeting rooms, one way or the other it goes against me," he said.

"I don't know why, I don't know what I've done. I don't think I have done anything wrong on this one and unfortunately it ruins the weekend, takes away three points for the team and gives Felipe another point - I am really happy for him, obviously!

"I don't know what I was supposed to do basically. I could have unrolled the red carpet and given him the corner. That is the only thing I could have done."



LH haters... your thoughts? Because i know if you replace LH with SB. It would have to be LH fault.

 

Massa must think it's Bourdais fault. Just like he thinks the pit lane incident at Valencia was Sutil's fault!!!!!!!

anyone notice here FM's lack of common sense? Just like when he didn't understand how KR got an extra cool down lap last year at Magnycours... even when Peter Windsor on camera tried to explain it to him, and Massa says ur wrong!

ra ra ra retard...

 

F'n FIA morons.
I feel really bad for Seabass.

 

Like I said in the other thread,

"then again he got what was coming to him when Bourdais and Massa came together when Bourdais was coming out of the pits. Common sense tells you to go wide but instead he nearly forced Bourdais off the track and they had contact."

FM was CLEARLY at fault. SB had no where to go. Why should he slam on his brakes to avoid FM when FM can simply go wide and avoid him? Bad judgment on FM and bad call by the FIA.

 

and how honorable is the FIA?

A series where you CAN'T protest! like we learned from LH's case.

I know you people must watch NFL (i don't). Don't they get to review penalties and then change their bad decisions/calls?




(cough) FIArrari (cough)

 

I still shaking my head having gone back and reviewed it a couple of times.
I might be able to see if Bourdais exited the pit lane into Massa he could have a penalty but he had exited substantially earlier than Massa arrived.
he was then over taken and forced to the inside edge by Massa driving into him.
I cannot comprehend in that circumstance short of installing traffic signals what the FIA expected of Seabass.