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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 05:56 AM
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Statistically speaking, if Brawn & the drivers can consistently finish on podium and have a couple more 1-2's they should have the championship.

Lewis was rewarded for being consistent last season even though he did not have as many wins as Massa. Consistency is the key and it remains to be seen if RedBull and Brawn can maintain it over the season.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aashish2,Jul 14 2009, 08:56 AM
Statistically speaking, if Brawn & the drivers can consistently finish on podium and have a couple more 1-2's they should have the championship.
And were they on the podium in Germany?

Oh, wait, no, they were down in 5th and 6th...


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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 14 2009, 09:39 AM
And were they on the podium in Germany?

Oh, wait, no, they were down in 5th and 6th...

I said statistically speaking. Lewis finished more races in the points (see chart below) and that is what Brawn must aspire for if they cant win em all, as must Red Bull. In the current points system it is points and not wins that will determine the championship. Brawn & RedBull have each had one retirement this season, however Brawn have consistently scored points at each race, whereas RedBull did not score any at the season opener - which could very well hurt them come end of season as would any future "no points finish" for BGP

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Grand Prix Date Team Grid Race Position Points Total
Australian 16 Mar 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 1 10 10
Malaysian 23 Mar 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 9 5 4 14
Bahrain 06 Apr 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 3 13 0 14
Spanish 27 Apr 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 5 3 6 20
Turkish 11 May 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 3 2 8 28
Monaco 25 May 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 3 1 10 38
Canadian 08 Jun 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 Ret 0 38
French 22 Jun 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 13 10 0 38
British 06 Jul 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 4 1 10 48
German 20 Jul 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 1 10 58
Hungarian 03 Aug 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 5 4 62
European 24 Aug 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 2 2 8 70
Belgian 07 Sep 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 3 6 76
Italian 14 Sep 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 15 7 2 78
Singapore 28 Sep 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 2 3 6 84
Japanese 12 Oct 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 12 0 84
Chinese 19 Oct 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 1 1 10 94
Brazilian 02 Nov 2008 McLaren-Mercedes 4 5 4 98
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aashish2,Jul 14 2009, 01:05 PM
I said statistically speaking.
I know, I have seen it before,
I just wanted to type out, JB and RB were down in 5th and 6th.

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Originally Posted by aashish2,Jul 14 2009, 08:56 AM
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THAT is the problem with the current points system. A driver without the most wins should NOT be WDC - consistency should be rewarded, but winning should be rewarded more...

Hopefully FOTA's points system will come into place next year and this crap points system we have now will be gone...
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by matrix,Jul 14 2009, 01:36 PM
THAT is the problem with the current points system. A driver without the most wins should NOT be WDC - consistency should be rewarded, but winning should be rewarded more...

Hopefully FOTA's points system will come into place next year and this crap points system we have now will be gone...
with that assessment. But it's funny how WDC fortune always favored the driver with the most wins. It was only last season that Lewis lucked out by being consistent and that costly mistake in Singapore cost Massa (who deserved it more) the title, and highlighted the deficiency of the current points system.

The winner needs to be rewarded with higher points, but then too care must be taken to not make it too big a difference so as to keep interest in the season going. I hope they run several statistical models applying the new points system to past championships in determining the new structure versus whimsically going with a new system.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 14 2009, 12:39 PM
I know, I have seen it before,
I just wanted to type out, JB and RB were down in 5th and 6th.
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Originally Posted by aashish2,Jul 14 2009, 04:58 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Is Lack Of Solid Funding Slowing Brawn GP ?

The past two races demonstrate that Brawn GP has entered the "second phase" of the team's career in formula one, according to an expert observer.

After dominating six of the opening seven grands prix this year, the Brackley based team succumbed to the superiority of Red Bull Racing at Silverstone and the Nurburgring.

"For Brawn, the solitude and isolation since the departure of Honda is beginning to weigh," former F1 team manager Joan Villadelprat, who recently made a bid to bring his Spanish outfit Epsilon Euskadi into the sport in 2010, said.

He said that while Red Bull can list no problems whatsoever, it is a lack of funds that have made Brawn come unstuck.

"They have obtained some sponsors, but none of significance. Virgin's contribution is modest and they have already announced they will not be around in the next campaign," Villadelprat wrote in his column for the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

"This is a problem, because there is no money to invest in the car," he continued. "Until now they have lived on the money of Honda; even the developments presented in Barcelona were financed by the Japanese.

"This slowness in improvements is noticeable now in comparison with the other teams, especially Red Bull," Villadelprat said.


He also believes the previous harmony within the team is beginning to suffer, as demonstrated by Rubens Barrichello's angry outburst after finishing the German grand prix sixth.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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^^ I hope not. They have made this season very exciting to watch for me.
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