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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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OK it's a $66K truck with 403-hp (giddy-up) 0-60 6.3 sec 14.8sec@95 mph (both times slower but close to the 325i FWIW).

It weighs 5793 lbs and has EPA fuel rating 13/19 and a 26 gal tank.

Does anyone know if it likes 92 oct gas or regular un-leaded? A full tank of high test costs $70 today and possibly $100 if gas goes up another buck a gal.

I'm not bashing just observing. I don't know what real world econ will be, and don't know how many miles C&D drove it, but I suspect it was a lot of full accleleration runs so the observed MPG should be taken with a grain of salt.

But I figure 350-400 miles would be a typical tank-ful of gas (ie. 15-16 mpg) maybe less.

GM said they don't have displacement on demand ready but will have it soon. I have to wonder why GM could not put a rush on for it's top of the line truck. I mean of all the features that make sense for this truck, DOD that could give it a few extra MPGs on the HWY would by first on my list.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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I think because most people buying a 66k luxury suv couldn't give a flying f about fuel economy. GM should just make a deal to start supplying pimpstar (http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels...oducts_id/1687) rims standard. I think that fits the demographic better.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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I suspect they haven't added DOD to the 6.2L motor yet. The 5.3 and maybe 5.7 were first in line. However, I think the 6.2L does have VVT. I suspect (no inside knowledge) the DOD 6.2L was probably timed to be ready when the new SUVs were originally scheduled to be launched. When the SUV's got advanced the DOD feature probably had to be dropped for the first year.
Also, while I'm sure the MPG figures for this think will never be good, C&D seems to do a great job of finding the bottom of the mileage figures. I suspect non-lead footed owners will do better.
On a side note, I sat in one of these things. While the interior is not exotically styled, the fit and finish is absolutely top notch! Not the sort of thing I would have expected to say about a GM 5 years back. Honestly, I think it's the best interior in the Caddy line.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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I'm pretty sure the Caddy engine requires 92. My dad's 04' drinks alot of it.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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5700lbs and it runs a 14.8 at 95mph? That's pretty damn impressive.

Agree that the observed fuel economy of 11mpg should be taken with a grain of salt, they were probably thrashing it the whole time. I'm sure it can get close to 20mpg at steady state cruise on the highway with that loafing V8 and 6-speed automatic.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Mar 31 2006, 09:16 AM
5700lbs and it runs a 14.8 at 95mph? That's pretty damn impressive.

Agree that the observed fuel economy of 11mpg should be taken with a grain of salt, they were probably thrashing it the whole time. I'm sure it can get close to 20mpg at steady state cruise on the highway with that loafing V8 and 6-speed automatic.
And the brick aerodynamics? I'm not holding my breath to see anywhere near 20mpg in the real world, especially at 70+ mph.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Mar 31 2006, 06:25 AM
I'm not holding my breath to see anywhere near 20mpg in the real world, especially at 70+ mph.


I'm not against huge SUVs per-say. But I see them being used does not require them to do anything truck-like. My neighbor has GMC version and 90% it's driven by his wife 40-miles each way to work.

I have a Trooper and see similar gas mileage so it's not like I'm bashing SUVs. But I bought it 6 years ago and only only drive it 700 miles per month. When I replace it, will probably get something with better fuel econ.

My point is when I bought the Trooper there was not much second thought about gas mileage with gas at $1.30/gal. But we've all lived through $3.50/gal of gas and $4/gal is not out of the realm of possibility. So people that buy them today should brace themselves for $90 fill ups.

My Trooper gets ~14 mpg mixed driving at hwy speeds of 75-80 mph.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01,Mar 31 2006, 07:58 AM
I think because most people buying a 66k luxury suv couldn't give a flying f about fuel economy.
Not entirely true. When gas prices go up, the sales of these things goes into the tank, so there IS a corelation.

I always thought the news of giant leaps forward in fuel economy for these things was complete and total bullsh*t. Everybody knows the milage on them sucks and those who buy one and then complain the mpg's are bad are morons.

But for many people they like em and will just pay the extra to burn lots of gas. And the performance numbers are very impressive for a car of that heft.




Now if they could fix the fact that they look like gaudy pimp wagons, but that's just my opinion. And we will see $3+ gas again by the end of May, I am certain of it.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Even our MDX gets ~12-13mpg in city driving...... at 78mph it gets about 19mpg though.....so maybe the Escalade will be similar (yet much bigger).

No magazine test is going to be gentle, with the intent to get decent mileage.....

most of the tests show 20-22mpg for the S2000.... in real life lots of people get over 30mpg on the highway....
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:11 AM
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Remember the V10 TD T-Reg was getting good gas mileage fiugures and was fast, but I don't see many deisel SUvs for performance and econ.

Maybe they cost too much and Deisel costs more than 92 where I live. But the extra fuel econ of a D could pay for the extra cost.
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