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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Really liked what Chris Harris said about the boxster. "do I really need more car than this.". Somewhat applicable to the s2k as well IMO.
This is my opinion. The 911 is gorgeous, fast, beautiful. So is a Boxster, at half the cost, and with all the utility I want.
Then the same could be applied to any super car for you, no?
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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I think the significance is being happy with a car that has a relatively low price
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nofearofdanger
Originally Posted by Saki GT' timestamp='1346774501' post='21986467
[quote name='dyhppy' timestamp='1346771273' post='21986280']
Really liked what Chris Harris said about the boxster. "do I really need more car than this.". Somewhat applicable to the s2k as well IMO.
This is my opinion. The 911 is gorgeous, fast, beautiful. So is a Boxster, at half the cost, and with all the utility I want.
Then the same could be applied to any super car for you, no?
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And why not? Most "supercars" are as practical as an underwater umbrella. People don't buy them as rational transportation decisions. But given the pricing of the 911 vs. the Boxster and Cayman, the 911 just doesn't have enough real value to warrant paying so much more. Would the Cayman be faster with a 911 motor? Maybe, but the 911 would be faster without the unnecessary luxury features that jack the already high price into the stratosphere. For someone not looking for bling, a new 911 is just dumb at this point.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 01:53 AM
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As I have said countless times, 20 years from now the 911 will be a true classic that you will still be proud to drive.
It's one of the reasons why i love the s2000 or NSX so much, because they are timeless vehicles.


20 years from now, the boxster will be an old car with no financial or emotional value.

Sure , you might say the current Boxster or Cayman offers more driving experience for the money. But that's not what cars are always about. The 911 has been perfected for the past 60 years and is no where near prone to problems in the future.

Reliability , durability, build quality, class, and the everlasting beauty of a 911 chassis makes the 911 worth every dollar in my book.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 02:46 AM
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As I have said countless times, 20 years from now the 911 will be a true classic that you will still be proud to drive.
& we've said countless times, we don't care... have fun with your base carrera
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JHooby
Reliability , durability, build quality, class, and the everlasting beauty of a 911 chassis makes the 911 worth every dollar in my book.
Reliability? The boxster was porsche's most reliable car for years...
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 04:07 AM
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From my perspective, having never owned a Porsche (only a few test drives and friends cars in the boxster), it seems like a Boxster/Cayman would be great and even if the 911 is much better it would be lost on me. Boxster/Cayman seems to have more than enough power (high 12s, in the 1/4) and the handling was great, so that leaves ride quality and other luxury items that the 911 has over the entry vehicle. Those are the differences that make the 911 more appealing to rich older guys than the Boxster because non-luxury can wear us old guys out.

My problem with both cars is that I won't race them, that leaves street only, and I know from experience that a refined car that is fast and handles great can be boring on the street because you are rarely, if ever able, to drive it like it was meant to and at normal speeds the car is under-utilized. It is like you only get half of what you paid for and you are constantly feeling like you are being held back.

But if you worry that you should buy the 911 only because you worry if other people think you are driving a Boxster ONLY because you can't afford a 911, then you are an idiot.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nofearofdanger
Originally Posted by Saki GT' timestamp='1346774501' post='21986467
[quote name='dyhppy' timestamp='1346771273' post='21986280']
Really liked what Chris Harris said about the boxster. "do I really need more car than this.". Somewhat applicable to the s2k as well IMO.
This is my opinion. The 911 is gorgeous, fast, beautiful. So is a Boxster, at half the cost, and with all the utility I want.
Then the same could be applied to any super car for you, no?
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Supercars aren't the same - they are typically much bigger, heavier, and brutish in a way. They have incredible power, speed and handling capability, but not necessarily the nimbleness of sports cars - they're almost balky when they aren't on a highway or track.

Plus, most supercars don't have a lower-model in the family that is both very similar in utility and performance. Like I said, the 911 is great, but Its not a car I'd buy given the availability of a Boxster.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JHooby
As I have said countless times, 20 years from now the 911 will be a true classic that you will still be proud to drive.
It's one of the reasons why i love the s2000 or NSX so much, because they are timeless vehicles.


20 years from now, the boxster will be an old car with no financial or emotional value.

Sure , you might say the current Boxster or Cayman offers more driving experience for the money. But that's not what cars are always about. The 911 has been perfected for the past 60 years and is no where near prone to problems in the future.

Reliability , durability, build quality, class, and the everlasting beauty of a 911 chassis makes the 911 worth every dollar in my book.

I hate to break it to you, but an old S2000 will have about as much financial and emotional value as any old Boxster. They are both mass-produced cars and with the exception of a few special editions, won't be collectible. Any value differences are derived purely from your personal preferences.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NuncoStr8
Originally Posted by nofearofdanger' timestamp='1346782504' post='21986843
[quote name='Saki GT' timestamp='1346774501' post='21986467']
[quote name='dyhppy' timestamp='1346771273' post='21986280']
Really liked what Chris Harris said about the boxster. "do I really need more car than this.". Somewhat applicable to the s2k as well IMO.
This is my opinion. The 911 is gorgeous, fast, beautiful. So is a Boxster, at half the cost, and with all the utility I want.
Then the same could be applied to any super car for you, no?
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But given the pricing of the 911 vs. the Boxster and Cayman, the 911 just doesn't have enough real value to warrant paying so much more. For someone not looking for bling, a new 911 is just dumb at this point.
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I cannot begin to believe the narrow mindedness of these few statements, who are you to judge whether a 911 has value to someone or not? To myself and thousands of others it is leaps and bounds above what a Boxster or Cayman could ever hope to be. There's beauty in subtlety and timelessness. Why do you think this car has been on sale for 40 years? Not everything has to be Zonda or Lamborghini in your face. On the other hand, if you're judging the value of a purchase of a supercar on statistics alone, well that's just idiotic anyway.
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