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Finally got the BRZ this past Thursday right before going on a long weekend vacation. Only have 130 miles on it so far, so haven't fully wrung it out, but man, it feels good. Great steering, suspension, immediate responses on turn-in, easily rotatable at normal speeds, very communicative.
Can't believe they sell their loaded model for $31k in this day and age. It's a heck of lot of fun car for the money. I love driving it. Did some sub 4k rpm driving through some semi-twisty roads near my house (Westlake, TX in DFW) and at maybe 70% cornering, hit a decent mid-corner bump and expected the car to hop or do something weird and it just soaked it up and kept going.
It honestly doesn't feel dramatically different than my old 911.2 GT3 in how it turns and handles corners. Obviously dynamic differences in rear-engine, bigger/better tires, and large horsepower difference, but this BRZ really feels like it has a little bit of Porsche-like handling DNA. It's a sweet, super fun car.
Can't wait to get more miles on it and hit some track days coming up soon.
Sounds pretty fair to me, and the upgrade price to move to the higher trim is more than reasonable. The only thing missing are those beautiful big brakes
I think the price is appropriate. They haven't reached the "By 'Under $30,000' what we really mean is $29,999" mark. The BRZ is still an affordable sports car and I expect the GT86 to be more affordable than the BRZ.
Aside from the MacPherson strut suspension (I'm partial to our DWB suspensions), it seems to be a solid non-convertible sports car. I'm curious as to what the BRZ/86 dyno figures read.
I wonder if the new Nissan 400Z will be able to stay close to the $30,070 entry price the 370Z ended on.
I'm still waiting on Honda to bring a new non-eco-box to the game. :')
And, given the chip shortages, and the fact that used car prices on average have increased ~30% or more, I would say this is not only fair, but an actual bargain.
Using the inflation numbers that I linked. That $26,245 is equivalent to $30,939 in todays dollars. So, theoretically, the new 2022 BRZ is cheaper than the 2013 BRZ.
Given the market the way it is, they definitely could've started pricing at 30k and no one would really bat an eye, so they definitely are aggressively pricing this car, because the first time around many, myself included, felt that the price was too high. So while I'm not saying this is a game changer bargain, I find the pricing to be very competitive. So in theory, whenever the PP rolls out for it, you can get one for just around 30-31k. Fully loaded youre talkiing 33, 34, so still very reasonable.
As mentioned, I do wonder what the dyno numbers are going to look like, but seems like this car intends to be a high to maybe mid 5 second to 60 car, which should put in in equal footing with the ND2 if not have a slight edge, and puts it right next to the s2000.
I have no idea how the BRZ transmission works but S2000 0-60 time suffers with the AP2 gearbox 'cuz the engine hits the rev limiter in 2d gear before that speed and requires a 1/2 second gear change. The "little engine" can reach 60 in 2d and is therefore "faster." As if 0.5 second matters.
I'll be waiting until the Performance Package is available (or whatever they call the option for bigger brakes). Might be more partial to the Toyota this time as well, prefer that front end. Depends on pricing and packaging to a degree.
FYI I had one of the first BRZs sold in NC the first time around, and was able to buy it for $500 below MSRP. Hopefully no "adjusted" prices this time around either.
I have no idea how the BRZ transmission works but S2000 0-60 time suffers with the AP2 gearbox 'cuz the engine hits the rev limiter in 2d gear before that speed and requires a 1/2 second gear change. The "little engine" can reach 60 in 2d and is therefore "faster." As if 0.5 second matters.
-- Chicl
Very true that in gear acceleration is a better marker, I'm sure the rags will release all the 10-30, 30-60, etc times to get a better understanding of actual real world performance.
Zero--to-60 has always been a performance "indicator and advertising number so it would not surprise me that cars selling to even the pseudo-performance market optimize their cars for a low number. Excessive manual gear changes don't help. The S2000 may have been optimized in original form (Honda engineers neglected to consult me ) but the change in engines and transmissions negated it. Didn't matter by 2006 as the S2000 reputation was solidly in place.
I'm old enough to remember not considering buying cars with 0-60 times in excess of 10 seconds.
Price is super reasonable and fair considering the inflation rate for 2021 is at ~5.4% so far.
This. Excellent starting price for what you get. If this is what car companies do when they split costs to develop an affordable sports car, keep it coming.
