http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2...-under-20k.html



Pricing and EPA numbers are out for the 2011 Honda CR-Z today, and the hybrid hatch slips in under the $20,000 mark with a starting MSRP of $19,950 including destination. The CR-Z will come in base (not LX), EX and EX with Navi trim levels. The car tops out at $23,960.

Typical of Honda hybrids, all versions get automatic climate control. A USB hookup is standard, too. No leather upholstery on the EX, but you will get a leather wrap on the steering wheel, along with a higher-wattage audio system and Bluetooth.

There's a convenient chart with all the trim levels, prices and EPA estimates after the jump.





I still don't see the point but whatever- I'll probably test drive one for the hell of it.

 

is there a ETA for when it hits showroom floors? not gunna get one but also wouldnt mind a test drive.

 

Base mini cooper money

 

August '10

 

Sporty suspension, and 0-60 in the 10-second range, with only so so fuel economy. It seems to me they are trying to make this thing do too many things, and instead of it being great at 1-thing, it's sort of lame at them all.

Maybe I'm just a fool, but I still believe the new CR-Z should have been made a bit more like the GEN1 CRX. There was the regular CRX, it was the general car, today that could be something like this CR-Z. There was the CRX HF, it was the high fuel economy car, today that could be something like this CR-Z, but take it a step forward somehow and make that fuel economy rating way higher, maybe loose the so called sporty suspension. And finally of course there was the CRX-Si, it was the performance model, today that could be the CR-Z's body and suspension and a powerful gas I4, and when one looks at what powerful 4's honda has in Japan to choose from, nobody can tell me they don't have an engine that would make this baby sing!

As a die-hard CRX-Si fan, I owned a GEN1, and still have my GEN2, I think the body design of the CR-Z is a real winner, but the powertrain just leaves me convinced, Honda has lost their way and their image is nothing more than old and frumpy. Sad for a company that was able to bring us this at one time.

 

The clear problem with the CR-Z is simply weight. Like others said, it tries to do too many things. It weighs around a whopping 2700 lbs, which is a pig compared to the CRX. I hate the fact that cars are all overweight pigs all in the name of "safety."

 

:facepalm:

I had such high hopes. I hope Honda learns its lesson so they can revamp this thing quickly. See Hyundai.

 

I hear ya Onehot!

As much as I like Honda, I hope this car is a flop, and it forces them to rethink what they can do with that body to sell more product.

Their newest Insight has also sold much fewer than anticipated.

 

I really expected mpg to be well in the 40’s for a light weight hybrid car. 34-37 mpg is not at all that impressive; my GTI averages 32 mpg in mixed city/highway driving. Seems to me the CR-Z could have achieved the same mpg by using a conventional 2.0 I4. It would be lighter than the hybrid setup and a lot more HP - more fun all the way around.

 

God forbid anyone wait to drive the car or get real world fuel mileage numbers before they dismiss it.

Yes, I agree, I don't quite see the point of this car. However, if it has the Insight drivetrain and similar weight and the Insight is getting much HIGHER real world fuel mileage numbers than the EPA numbers suggest, you're talking about a car that could be getting more like 38 or 40 mpg (combined) with a careful foot taking you up into the mid-40 mpg range. That's pretty great economy for a supposedly FUN-TO-DRIVE car.

Comparatively speaking, the only thing remotely close is a Mini Cooper or Smart car (the most useless car on the planet for real people). Nothing else with that kind of fuel mileage is fun and a two-door.