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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 09:11 AM
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I always thought bikes were for exercise ?
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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
I always thought bikes were for exercise ?
Also for fun.
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by robb
Looks like fun. Why would you not recommend it? I've been thinking of getting one but would want to try out a few before buying.
Poor quality control. Poor customer support. Straight up lies and refusal regarding legit warranty claims. Bait & switch on critical parts. Horrible ergonomics- seat is not adjustable at all. No cool aftermarket parts available, like for e-mtbs. No way to pedal, unless you're under 4'5" tall. No way to lock the ignition, anyone can just get on and take off. Non-functional rear suspension that almost broke my teeth and spine (1,000 lb shock). Rear shock also not standard size for any mountain bike- just crappy Chinese pit bikes. Throttle totally sucks with a ridiculous and dangerous delay. The brakes shut down the motor every time, causing motor delay and crap responsiveness. Pretty sure the battery only charges to 75% brand new. Two-pot brakes, instead of 4-pot. Should have 4-pots for this power level. Barely adjustable front forks. Rear brake squeals so loud, I'm embarrassed to use it. No mirrors. No electric horn. There's way more for sure. That's just off the top of my head.

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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
I always thought bikes were for exercise ?
Certainly they are, and a multitude of other purposes.
I hope this answers your question. Thanks for posting.
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 11:09 PM
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Some reasons I got this specific bike.

Didn't know most of the negative stuff until after I bought it.

Needed to avoid legal problems for a while, and this bike comes with a Class 2 sticker- which may mean nothing to a police officer- but I'm hopeful. Obviously if I'm doing a ridiculous rate of speed, the sticker means nothing.



750 watts is the max for street legal here. Bike comes with street legal settings. You can punch a secret code into the dash and UNLOCK 2,000 watts of peak power. One of the main reasons I bought it. I feel pretty safe from the man, as long as I don't exceed the speed limit or hooligan out.

I don't pedal, ever. Has 7-speed Shimano components, but I don't use them. Class 2 bikes come with throttle control. This bike comes with a twist throttle, as opposed to an ATV-style thumb throttle. I have 8 motorcycles and 0 ATVs, so that's a good thing.

Other big issues:
Moto style seat. Comfortable, not too hard. Would like to get some custom uphlolstery. No way am I sitting on a tiny, hard bicycle seat.
Fat tires. 4 inches wide. I run the pressure low and get a very plush ride. The knobbies came with the bike. I've already got replacement street tires. Will put them on soon. Suspension needed major modification. Much better now.

I've already modified lots of stuff and need to do more. The bike is now great for my needs, and I love riding it. The main streets around here are 35mph, and I'm 34mph most of the time. I've racked up over 500 miles going to welding lab, and getting mexican food & beer. Also do lots of LOW speed standing up joyriding in the foothills.


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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect
Blast from the past. Funny enough, I'm actually in process building my first ebicycle. I know, not an emotorcycle, but infinitely more useful, lol.
Got any pics?
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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodokan_4
Some reasons I got this specific bike.

Didn't know most of the negative stuff until after I bought it.

Needed to avoid legal problems for a while, and this bike comes with a Class 2 sticker- which may mean nothing to a police officer- but I'm hopeful. Obviously if I'm doing a ridiculous rate of speed, the sticker means nothing.



750 watts is the max for street legal here. Bike comes with street legal settings. You can punch a secret code into the dash and UNLOCK 2,000 watts of peak power. One of the main reasons I bought it. I feel pretty safe from the man, as long as I don't exceed the speed limit or hooligan out.

I don't pedal, ever. Has 7-speed Shimano components, but I don't use them. Class 2 bikes come with throttle control. This bike comes with a twist throttle, as opposed to an ATV-style thumb throttle. I have 8 motorcycles and 0 ATVs, so that's a good thing.

Other big issues:
Moto style seat. Comfortable, not too hard. Would like to get some custom uphlolstery. No way am I sitting on a tiny, hard bicycle seat.
Fat tires. 4 inches wide. I run the pressure low and get a very plush ride. The knobbies came with the bike. I've already got replacement street tires. Will put them on soon. Suspension needed major modification. Much better now.

I've already modified lots of stuff and need to do more. The bike is now great for my needs, and I love riding it. The main streets around here are 35mph, and I'm 34mph most of the time. I've racked up over 500 miles going to welding lab, and getting mexican food & beer. Also do lots of LOW speed standing up joyriding in the foothills.

I live about 3 miles from 100’s of miles of logging roads so I would be doing more dirt riding than street riding. I used to do a lot of road riding but that was long before cellphones came along and you didn’t take your life in your hands riding on the side of the road.
I saw someone operating an e-bike down a very busy main road this weekend doing a wheelie passing cars so I’m figuring it won’t be long before people like this bring a bunch of new laws pertaining to owning operating e-bikes.
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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodokan_4
Got any pics?

Not yet, still building, slowly. It's a mess right now, trying to figure out how to do the torque arm, once I do that it should be downhill from there.

Funny enough I actually wanted an Ariel Rider, my buddy even got one. As bad as yours is, it's still the best one out there especially for the money until you start getting into the big bike brands, but those are $$$.

As what was said, ebikes inevitably fail and need repairs, and post sales support is practically non-existent. Further, if the part is proprietary, well good luck with that. So I figured it'd be good to learn how it all works by building it, and that way when I need parts I can actually get them. There's not a whole lot to them really, especially a mid drive one like I'm doing. It's been a fun journey so far.
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Old Sep 26, 2023 | 05:55 PM
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Our kids are 36 and 34.
Somehow we missed the right age for a cell phone debate.
Started giving them access to credit cards in High School (the world did not cease turning).
I work in San Diego and with the hills eBikes are pretty popular.
The new question for parents is what age to allow your kid to have an eBike.
My co-worker said with some of them being very fast, kids have had accidents, etc. and parents have been less willing to let their kids have them.
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by clutchcargo
Our kids are 36 and 34.
Somehow we missed the right age for a cell phone debate.
Started giving them access to credit cards in High School (the world did not cease turning).
I work in San Diego and with the hills eBikes are pretty popular.
The new question for parents is what age to allow your kid to have an eBike.
My co-worker said with some of them being very fast, kids have had accidents, etc. and parents have been less willing to let their kids have them.

I mean, you could just give them the 250w ebikes.
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