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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drive...photopanel..1.*

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/14311...rice-page3.html


Any thoughts? Seems as if the gap wont be as big between the STI and the EVO in terms of handling. It still boggles my mind why both companies made the cars slower.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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When you want to make a huge leap off, you have to take a few steps back to get that running start. Such is the case with the Evo and its new engine. The 4G63 is wonderful but it's old and it's time for new technology.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the STi. How is it slower?

New 6 speed gearbox? New? I wonder what it feels like. The old 6 speed felt pretty good and was bulletproof. Edmunds says it's notchier and to me, notchy is good.

The keyless system is for Japan only, as crash test certification complicates its adoption for the U.S. (Photo by Chikara Kitabatake)
D'oh.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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[QUOTE=Bboy AJ,Nov 9 2007, 05:26 PM] I'm not sure what you're talking about with the STi.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I'm crossing my fingers for that low 30k price range.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Nov 9 2007, 08:40 PM
"The last STI we tested weighed 3308, which means the new car won't likely accelerate any quicker than the previous STI (0 to 60 in 4.9 seconds, 13.4-second quarter-mile time)."- CandDriver

" The U.S.-spec model is expected to sprint to 60 mph in the low 5s."-edmunds
It's may not be faster but it's certainly not slower. Different track conditions, driver...

Comparing numbers from different sources is not worth doing. This car isn't slower than the older one. I suspect when it starts hitting the showrooms, the owners will show us what's what.

After all, a bone stock 2.5L WRX (non-STI) can do the 1/4 in ~13.6. I probably won't get within a second of that time but that's another issue.

The 05+ STis trap at 100-102 and I'm hoping the new ones do 103-104.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bboy AJ,Nov 9 2007, 05:58 PM
It's may not be faster but it's certainly not slower. Different track conditions, driver...

Comparing numbers from different sources is not worth doing. This car isn't slower than the older one. I suspect when it starts hitting the showrooms, the owners will show us what's what.

After all, a bone stock 2.5L WRX (non-STI) can do the 1/4 in ~13.6. I probably won't get within a second of that time but that's another issue.

The 05+ STis trap at 100-102 and I'm hoping the new ones do 103-104.
I see what your saying. But you have to take into account that its another generation. It would be more fair to compare the new WRX, which didnt break 14seconds in the quarter. There is no doubt in my mind that the new car is faster around the corners.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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No, it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the new WRX since it's been neutered No rear LSD, skinnier tires, no 4 pot brakes... It does weigh 50 lbs less, though.

The new WRX may break 14 seconds. It hasn't been out long enough yet for anyone to know but I'd put my money it can hit high 13s.

You are taking numbers from magazines. Use numbers from actual owners. Owners know how to drive their cars. For example, S2000 owner numbers at the 1/4 compared to magazine times. There's a significant discrepancy.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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A handful of laps at Japan's Fuji Speedway in a Japan-spec STI doesn't qualify us for a definitive response on Solberg's dynamic philosophy, but we can testify to the abundance of body roll, as well as ample understeer.
Boooooo.

So much for the people who tout "newer is better."

Market forces, FTL.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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I don't know which car is uglier...the new STi or the 1 Series BMW?
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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Suby really blew it on the design. It's a horrible looking car. And that is coming from a hatcback fan.
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