Yeah, that's the worry, but I was hoping the increase in torque and the LSD would alleviate the concerns about lower HP and FWD.

Just too juvenile for me, sadly. I want to like it, but I can't; just screams "rice rocket" too loudly.

 

2015 Golf R?

 

Fiat Abarth is a blast to drive and could buy new within your budget easily.

 

The Chinese workforce is capable of producing a product on par with anyone else. Your issue isn't with the Chinese people, it's with their government's lack of oversight. Many an American company would follow similar business practices if allowed (i.e. cut corners in an effort to maximize profit).

Issues such as quality control, safety standards, environmental protection, copyright infringement, working conditions, etc are only as high as the company itself sets them (again, little to no oversight).


No amount of anecdotal evidence will condone your racism (I hate to throw that word around, but that's clearly what it is).



VW is German, so according to your logic, you must also be an anti-Semite (since you own one).

 

Base WRX actually looks pretty tame. No big wing, no crazy scoops pretty plain looking sedan body.

May check out a Legacy GT as well.

If you're willing to buy used you can get a really nice used E90 M3 or 335i, 335d M sport or the V6 S/C S4.

 

I don't doubt their ability to do the work if they wanted, but they do not seem to want to. And it isn't a lack of gov't oversight (which is another issue, environmental, etc) but a lack of corporate backbone. I've had Chinese I worked with, employed by my employer, tell me that it is acceptable in China to rip a customer off if you can get away with it, because it's his fault for not paying attention. So specs (metalurgical, contaminent ppm, etc) must constantly be watched and evaluated, because as soon as they think you aren't looking, they'll change them. I had a case recently where a Chinese vendor promised up and down they built a tank to a low-temp spec (it was going to Siberia) and then when we cold-tested it, it failed. Their own test results were falsified. Maybe they're the only supplier ever to do that, but since I've seen others do the same, and we've all seen the pictures of the bridge made of trash, etc, I doubt it. Had we taken this tank and put it into service in Siberia, it would have exploded, and possibly/probably killed someone.


Throw it around all you want. My experience, my money. Based on my business experience working with Chinese companies, I will try to avoid, whevever possible, doing personal business with Chinese companies. In cases where I must (TVs, cell phones, etc) I will buy from a non-Chinese company with a good reputation who is hopefully doing the same thing I'm doing, holding their suppliers' feet to the fire.



That comparison doesn't make sense, nor is it relevant at any point in the last 50 years.

 

I don't know if I can disagree with all you have said though. Many shady things go on in China that aren't really transparent to us and there are certainly business operations that we can't deny are being practiced.

As a person from Hong Kong, I do have negative feelings towards the mainland Chinese but I can assure you that not every Chinese person is as bad as you have described. You can't generalize the whole population based on your own experience, I don't care how many Chinese people you have dealt with, they are just a small part of the population. And for you to generalize everything, that is just very immature because it is insulting to those Chinese people who DON'T fit your description of them.

If you make a conclusion about something based on your own prejudice instead of research and knowledge, I doubt you would benefit in such situation.

 

I'm not generalizing the population, I'm sure the common worker has no idea what's going on. But I am using it as a basis to say I will not purchase a Chinese-made car, nor will I buy a car from a Chinese-owned brand even if it's made elsewhere.

 

Again, it's the lack of government standards and oversight that leads to what you experience. If we didn't have the regulations we have, our end product and reputation in the global market would be no better then that of China.

If you had just stated that you would have qualms about the quality control of a Chinese made car, I would have agreed. Instead, you choose to show your true colors with a blanket statement about a society of 1.3 billion people.



My comparison is as baseless as your views (that was the point).