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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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lol those cars are so quiet u don't even know if they are on.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 8 2011, 12:10 PM
I stopped reading at "know nothings like you guys". Personal insults... not appreciated.
That's his standard retort when someone dares to sully the diefied doman and dilligence of personal injury attorneys... he lost me a few months ago when he told one of his detractors that he hoped he got cancer and died... I found that a bit hard to stomach...
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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this is dumb, what an imbecile. Go ahead sue and lose, hate how people are so sue happy these days. Don't waste money and throw in another one of these ridiculous lawsuits in the many that already exist.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 8 2011, 11:52 AM
What's the saying... "As soon as you think you made it idiot proof, along comes a bigger idiot."
....true dat...
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 8 2011, 11:52 AM
What's the saying... "As soon as you think you made it idiot proof, along comes a bigger idiot."

Or something like that.
I think you mean:

For every fool proof system there is a new and improved fool to defeat it.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Feb 8 2011, 02:57 PM
I completely agree that this lawsuit is bullshit but you guys are more retarded than carbon dioxide girl if you think that's how the justice system works.

Toyota is not going to pay anything if they don't have any liability. The news loves to report on BS lawsuits because know nothings like you guys eat it up. They forget to mention the part about how these lawsuits are either thrown out, diminished in value, the plaintiff flat out loses, a decision is reversed on appeal, the attorneys get sanctioned, counter suits occur, etc.

Everyone is so jazzed about talking about how the justice system is horribly askew when it's so evident to anyone that actually is involved in litigation that 99% of the critics have zero understanding of what actually occurs.

There are certainly no shortage of lawyers that will swing for the fences on BS cases but filing a lawsuit and making a claim has nothing to do with moneys actually being paid out.
Failpost from lawyer wannabe is fail. Toyota will fight this PUBLICLY tooth and nail because...and say it with me now for all the legal students....."THEY DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT."

Settling or losing this case would open the floodgates for idiots who blame everything and anything on their cars. They DO NOT want this person to win. Hell, all car companies that have keyless go will help Toyota fight it, because if toyota wins, everyone is in the clear...if toyota loses, everyone gets sued the next day.


As for leaving the engine on...on my dad's 2010 RL, if you get out of the car with the engine running, and you close the door, the car will emit a LOUD series of beeps. There is no way, unless you are deaf (in which case you can't drive) that you don't know your engine is running. I am certain Lexus has the same feature.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsley18,Feb 8 2011, 09:17 AM
It is at this point that we must note that in our experience, Toyota's keyless ignition mechanism operates in essentially the same manner as every other system used by other automakers, and that cars equipped with the technology are programmed to deliver both audible and visual warnings if the driver attempts to leave the car without first shutting off the engine.
Well, I guess they'll all be sued then.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Feb 8 2011, 07:12 PM
Failpost from lawyer wannabe is fail. Toyota will fight this PUBLICLY tooth and nail because...and say it with me now for all the legal students....."THEY DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT."

Settling or losing this case would open the floodgates for idiots who blame everything and anything on their cars. They DO NOT want this person to win. Hell, all car companies that have keyless go will help Toyota fight it, because if toyota wins, everyone is in the clear...if toyota loses, everyone gets sued the next day.


As for leaving the engine on...on my dad's 2010 RL, if you get out of the car with the engine running, and you close the door, the car will emit a LOUD series of beeps. There is no way, unless you are deaf (in which case you can't drive) that you don't know your engine is running. I am certain Lexus has the same feature.
Perhaps you could explain how what you said conflicts with Mr EG's post. I think you are basically in agreement.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 8 2011, 12:10 PM
I stopped reading at "know nothings like you guys". Personal insults... not appreciated.
Talking out your ass about something you are ignorant of is not appreciated. Sorry if I call it like I see it but you are forming incredibly biased opinions about a subject you clearly don't fully understand.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Feb 8 2011, 11:37 PM
Talking out your ass about something you are ignorant of is not appreciated. Sorry if I call it like I see it but you are forming incredibly biased opinions about a subject you clearly don't fully understand.
...you must be new to Car Talk...

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