Pretty arrogant post. My girlfriend loves driving the S2000, but can't rev match 100% - this doesn't diminish from her happiness of driving it, and nor should it.

Wanker.

 

The great thing is that rev matching is not a requirement, if you can it will reward you, if you don't the tranny still works. Props to your girlfriend for trying

 

rev matching and heel&toe make driving manual so fun! can't imagine driving without it.

 

I agree that driving is evolving but also think it is dying. Automation is great but ultimately it will lead to drivers being obsolete. Cars that drive themselves will be efficient, safer and drive in a more orderly manner on the roads. Can it really go any other way? Racing cars will probably always exist but will be a past-time for those that can afford to play. That's my take on the future anyway.

 

the perfect rev match down shift is awesome, when you hear the downshift happen, but you don't feel it in the car

 

I rev match and heel toe everywhere. I am going to shamelessly say that I am ridiculously good at it.

Its a terrible habit.

If you're coming to a stop...you should juse use the brakes. If you're coming to to a turn or slowing down, you should use the brakes and then downshift ONCE after you are done slowing down.

Nobody rev matches perfectly. You are always mismatching a bit, and this speeds up wear on your driveline, whether you know/admit it or not.

But...I just always do it out of habit lol.

My GF drove stick for years. Her summer car was an AP2. She never learned rev matching. She drove the car very smoothly unless she had to slow down and/or turn. There may, at that point have been a little bit of lurching if she had to put it in a lower gear. But she still enjoyed driving a manual car. And sometimes will still drive my car(s) if she's inclined.

 

Auto rev matching in 2015 BMW M3 and M4
See it in action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4n9tMdISBg

 

aometime in the future on a nice day, I'm going to send my sports car out on the twisties and and enjoy it on my computer screnn

 

So I am going to ask some ignorant questions...

I was taught to downshift and slow the car down using the clutch. Let friction and gravity slow the car down and help it with the downshifting. Obviously, don't apply if rapid deceleration is required. At times, this involves giving it a little throttle to bring the engine speed up to a level so that you don't have any car lurch.

I have recently heard the term "rev match" for the first time and have recently been introduced to the concept of heel-toe shifting.

I was taught to drive a stick by sound and feel. My father took me to an empty parking lot with a hill, parked it on the hill and told me to get at it .... with no shoes on. I learned by feel.

Now, I work very hard at smoothly upshifting AND downshifting. I am new to my S2000 and haven't had a MT in 15 years - so I am smooth but not where I want to be. Getting and enjoying the practice!

So someone explain what they mean by rev matching, please. I don't lurch when I downshift. Older now, I use the brake more for stopping than I used to. But I down run down the gears when decelerating and don't skip shift. The engine will slow down the car.

Do you go by sound? Is the goal only to not lurch the car? Do you have target RPM ranges by gear? In other words, if you are downshifting from 4th to 3rd, do you press in the clutch, shift and then push the throttle to make sure that you have at least 4k RPM? Or is the goal really just to not lurch?

Thanks

 

The real use of rev matching is when driving hard on track, or twisties, when decelerating rapidly, and needing to be a lower gear for the drive out of the corner.

Rev matching allows aggressive driving while still being smooth.

Since it can be so difficult to do very well, people often practice it even when its not really necessary.

You know you're doing it right when aggressive downshifts are very smooth.

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