SL63
Originally Posted by fusionchickenleg,May 3 2008, 06:56 AM
of course there's the v12 bi-turbo but that thing is supernatural, and so is the price.
A big reason for the lowering of the tq with the NA engine is to mate it to the new 7 speed transmission. The max tq for that unit is 525 lb.-ft. the old SC 5.5 L unit would break that in short order with no place to grow from that. Meanwhile the new unit has 465 lb.-ft. While it won't give you similar grunt off the line, I have heard the new 7 speed unit makes it much better as a daily driver.
The new Sl63 technically doesn't have an automatic, they removed the torque converter & it is a 7 speed psuedo-manual unit
The new Sl63 technically doesn't have an automatic, they removed the torque converter & it is a 7 speed psuedo-manual unit
^ You're saying the reason that AMG went to all that trouble of designing their first ever ground-up motor was for a transmission??? I highly doubt that; not very sexy, so to speak. The reason the tq. is lower is that an n.a. motor will never have the tq. output of a roughly equivalently-sized blown motor. I suspect that AMG simply wanted to do its own bespoke motor and decided that it should be n.a. The fact that it mates to the 7-spd. auto is likely just a bonus (assuming the 7-spd. auto couldn't handle the tq. of the blown motor...I don't know). Also, why would the 7-spd. auto, alone, make the car "much better as a daily driver?" The tq. production of the blown motor probably makes the 5-spd. auto more than sufficient. Heck, my car is a fine daily driver with a 5-spd. auto, and it has nothing but average tq. The 7-spd. will likely make the car marginally quicker and return better fuel economy, but I just don't see how it greatly affects a car's daily driveability (and, I drove 2 different MBs with 7-spd. autos today).
No, I don't think they designed the motor for the transmission, it's that the transmission does not work with the SC'ed V8 as the transmission is rated to 525 lb.ft. & the SC engine delivered more than that in it's stock form.
As you have pointed out probably has to do with fuel economy (though a bit more difficult to tell given the new review method for MPG), but in general the response of the E owners who have gone from the 55 to the 63's on the MBZ board is that they are about the same acceleration wise, but the 63's are a bit smoother as an everyday driver because the gears are closer together and there is a bit less hunting during cruising & moderate acceleration. You can read about it on MBWorld.org.
As you have pointed out probably has to do with fuel economy (though a bit more difficult to tell given the new review method for MPG), but in general the response of the E owners who have gone from the 55 to the 63's on the MBZ board is that they are about the same acceleration wise, but the 63's are a bit smoother as an everyday driver because the gears are closer together and there is a bit less hunting during cruising & moderate acceleration. You can read about it on MBWorld.org.
Originally Posted by Vik2000,May 4 2008, 01:24 AM
it is sorta ugly... especially the front... why did they do that
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