I think it looks really unique in black. If I was to buy a truck this will definitely be on the list.

 

Typical Elon Huckster. Market it will be x price, in reality for years 80k. And I wonder what the insurance industry will do with insurance premiums on an all stainless steel vehicle. That’s the thing with repairing them in a collision, have to go where Tesla tells you to go. I was interested in it at launch, mildly, even though I really don’t like that dude or the company. Let’s see what they price it at. I certainly wouldn’t touch it for a few years.

 

I think it's awful, only reason anyone is excited (imho) is because it's a Tesla. The RR Cullinan is bad, but this takes ugly to a new level. Minecraft fans will love it though.

 

In a world of Rivians, I can't see the appeal of this. Better looks, better packaging, albeit more $$$.

 

I do like the fact that they reduced the dimensions and made it less huge. Not my cup of tea but even though it is hideous, I appeciate some of the out of the box thinking. I guess the best thing about this is that if this creates competition with the Rivian, they will have to look at their pricing a bit. I quite like the Rivians, but they should be about $60k IMHO.

 

Yeah it’s 60k for RWD. 80k for AWD, and 100k for what they call the “Beast”. Like I said advertise or huck, like typical Elon Huckster, then change the price later for more expensive shat. Reference in point, the 60k version has been pushed out to 2025 and watch, probably will be 2026 or longer in reality. Reality is a great word. If you can even get one, 80k for the foreseeable future. A truck, any truck, isn’t worth 80 large to me. I wish folks could see through advertising and marketing but it really has people by the balls, for their whole life. Take the range quoted. Wait until TFL does their tow testing with this f’er. Watch that range go to shat.

What consumers need, is the Maverick type truck, for reality. These buyers, get suckled up on commercials towing a plane, sand dune jumping, etc. When the most they are gonna do with the bed is go to Home Depot and load the bed with flowers or something once a year. And never tow anything. We need EV’s for reality, commuters. That means smaller hatches and sedans. But in America, at least, image/status > reality. I mean it wasn’t that long ago where 100k would get a nice house in a rural community. Now that’s a status truck? LMFAO.

 

I totally want to drive one someday, but the pricing, 500 mile range, etc. all turned out not to be the case. Honestly, it doesn't seem like a more compelling option than a Hummer if you're looking for those kinds of EV trucks. Or a Rivian as Saki mentioned. I like Tesla and overall I think the Cybertruck is cool, but this isn't the world beater I was expecting.

My Hummer is supposed to be here any day. Game time decision on whether I take delivery or not. Really don't need it, but it would be fun to play with. Market has softened too, so I could lose some money even at an MSRP buy. Probably wouldn't get killed though. Anyway, Hummer is more competitive than I expected compared to the Cybertruck now that the specs are out.

 

I was just going to ask when Quikag was going to get his, lol.

So it's definitely not for me, but I dig it, frankly I wish they approached the Model 3 with similar avante garde thinking. I can definitely appreciate the thought that went into this truck, and I happen to like the way it looks; why make it look like just like anything else out there.

I'm not sure what the cost of the panels are, but typically the most expensive part of the repair process is the labor and paint. IIRC stainless doesn't cost as much as ALU, and doesn't require specific special treatment (clean room, ALU specific tools, etc), and with the spaceframe design I don't imagine it being that expensive. Theoretically, this is a great solution for a work a truck that constantly gets dinged up, you could simply just go to the dealer, buy the panel, and slap it on with hand tools without needing a bodyshop. I say theoretical because had Toyota made this truck, the parts would be reasonably priced and avaialble, I don't think that will be the case with the Tesla although their parts don't cost any more than any other luxury make.

Regarding Tesla requiring you to go to their shops, it's actually pretty common practice even before Tesla. Porsche, Audi, BMW, etc, for their ALU cars will only drop ship parts directly to their certified shops, dealers can't even get the parts (unless they got a certified shop). The biggest complaint with Teslas aren't so much the pricing or being funneled to their facilities, it's the wait time for repairs since alot of their structural components take forever to get.

I really wish people with more technical knowledge with repairs would do videos like these, because I'm not excited about that one piece front structure. Tesla did not pioneer this, frankly from a manufacturing standpoint it's actually easier and more cost effective. The reason why OEMs tend to not do it this way, especially in their more accessible models, is because of repairs. They learned nothign from the Model S, that has a one piece front structure, so a simple parking lot fender bender where you bump the front corner of your front bumper that happens all the time, instead of being a <1000 repair, suddenly becomes 10k, and 3+ months down time because the whole front aluminum structure needs to be replaced. BMW had a class action suit for the 5 series because it was pretty much an insurance death sentence for the car to get hit normally.

Further, all those structural buttresses/fins are just going to be prone to being damaged, and since it's ALU, probably won't be repariable, so let's say... you get hit directly on a wheel, or you have a gnarly tire blow out, and those fins get whacked pretty good, yup the entire front structure will now have to be replaced.

Tesla isn't necessarily being a huckster about not having the cheap models available, it's because they can only produce so many and need to make a return on investment ASAP, which means yup, they won't have replacement parts.

And once you beta test these cars for Tesla, and they make updates, well, that just means you're now going to have different variations of parts, which makes the situation worse. Tesla will likely come up with a half bakes solution to remedy the issues I outlined, but it'll likely make repairs more noticeable.

What is astonishing is that seemingly every OEM has to undergo a ton of certifications and such to address alot of these issues, including having replacement parts ready, but it seems these regulations have been relaxed alot.

Anyway, cool truck, I can't wait to see them on the road. I actually find the pricing somewhat reasonable, I mean the beast is under 100k and does 60 well under 3 seconds, has seats for 5 adults and a fullsize truck bed, all while being very unique, i.e. exotic. I get that this truck is probably useless on say a construction site or whatever, but all enthusiast minded cars are technically useless. People will spend over a mill to buy a Ferrari they can't even own to only drive on a track, but as a car in the broader, general sense, it's friggin worthless. The Cybertruck is like that, it's logically stupid, but for those that got the cash and want something fun but sportscars or hyper luxury really isn't their thing, then this makes total sense. I mean 16" ground clearance, a good amount of range, able to outrun the vast majority of sports cars on public roads while costing less, a ton of space to bring the family and friends, go anywhere do anything, while drawing more attention (in the short term anyway) than an Italian sportscar for a lot less. I dunno, seems to make a ton of sense from that lense.

I can't wait to see them around Oakland with bullet dents all around them, I mean why not, you could just buy the panels and replace them yourself.

 

What about the Rivian?

 

Lots of disappointed CT reservation holders on the Tesla forum.
It's not a real truck that can do truck things.
And Tesla over promise and under deliver MO is what people are pissed off at.