Tesla roadster
Originally Posted by airgate,May 19 2008, 06:02 PM
Hey hondabeater, I know Tesla is paying you well, but what about the benefits? 
Just kidding.

Just kidding.Just kidding, I'm not part of the company.
I'm just a supporter of electric performance machines. Not really a tree hugger, but a high gas price hater. I want to fight the high oil prices, now. Not when it reaches 5 dollars a gallon. I work hard all my life to pay for a s2k, now I can't drive it as often as I want, because I need to save gas? WTF is this world coming to.
Electric is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by ksdaoski,May 19 2008, 06:30 PM
elise for 25-30% of the cost sounds better to me....
Tesla vs Elise
Which one is more than twice as expensive, slower, weighs 600 pounds more, and can only go 220 miles before requiring to be refueled over night.
The Tesla is useful as a novelty, nothing more. Its performance is lacking and its far less practical than an Elise. I doubt its significantly more "green" considering the damage a single cell phone battery does to the environment. Which comes back to my original point. The only reason to buy a Tesla is because the novelty factor makes up for the fact that you are paying more than twice the price for a slower, worse performing, and less useful Elise. To me its not worth it.
Oh, and hondabeater with the $60,000+ you could save by buying a better performing and more practical Elise you could buy enough fuel to go 250,000 miles at $5 per gallon. If instead of the Tesla you bought an S2000 you could go 350,000 miles on the savings. The Tesla isn't exactly the car for people who can't afford gas. For that you might look at a Fit, which you could drive for a whopping 670,000 miles on the savings. Or perhaps a Prius (780,000) miles. Or say something entirely different, like a Hummer H2, which you could still drive for 108,000 on the savings.
Which one is more than twice as expensive, slower, weighs 600 pounds more, and can only go 220 miles before requiring to be refueled over night.
The Tesla is useful as a novelty, nothing more. Its performance is lacking and its far less practical than an Elise. I doubt its significantly more "green" considering the damage a single cell phone battery does to the environment. Which comes back to my original point. The only reason to buy a Tesla is because the novelty factor makes up for the fact that you are paying more than twice the price for a slower, worse performing, and less useful Elise. To me its not worth it.
Oh, and hondabeater with the $60,000+ you could save by buying a better performing and more practical Elise you could buy enough fuel to go 250,000 miles at $5 per gallon. If instead of the Tesla you bought an S2000 you could go 350,000 miles on the savings. The Tesla isn't exactly the car for people who can't afford gas. For that you might look at a Fit, which you could drive for a whopping 670,000 miles on the savings. Or perhaps a Prius (780,000) miles. Or say something entirely different, like a Hummer H2, which you could still drive for 108,000 on the savings.
The other thing about it being electric and trying to beat gas prices, what about your home electricity bill rising because of the need to charge your car. So how much are you actually going to save if any at all in the long haul?
Originally Posted by S_nisen,May 19 2008, 09:15 PM
The other thing about it being electric and trying to beat gas prices, what about your home electricity bill rising because of the need to charge your car. So how much are you actually going to save if any at all in the long haul?
Gas will keep climbing and it will climb at an ever increasing rate as we continue our gas burning habit. It is a matter of how soon NOT IF gas will reach 12 per gallon and more. Possibly next summer??
side note:
Batteries are recyclable and there are earth friendly ways to make electric which will be more widely used as the demand increases. Bonuses for electric power.
i think its a great idea and it may be a great car, but with the transmission challenges they've had already and the $60k they want to hold, i'd wait for a year or two until they prove the technology and have a few cars with 10-20k miles on them and happy owners.
one issue, unlikely as it may be, is this: if they go out of business, are you going to get your $60k back? (i'd doubt the answer is yes)
one issue, unlikely as it may be, is this: if they go out of business, are you going to get your $60k back? (i'd doubt the answer is yes)
Originally Posted by hondaBeater,May 20 2008, 03:32 PM
no offense but you have no idea what kind of numbers we are looking at. The miles per charge compared to mpg difference is like night and day. We are looking at thousands of dollars saved per year and that's using 3 dollar per gallon as a starting point.
Gas will keep climbing and it will climb at an ever increasing rate as we continue our gas burning habit. It is a matter of how soon NOT IF gas will reach 12 per gallon and more. Possibly next summer??
side note:
Batteries are recyclable and there are earth friendly ways to make electric which will be more widely used as the demand increases. Bonuses for electric power.

Gas will keep climbing and it will climb at an ever increasing rate as we continue our gas burning habit. It is a matter of how soon NOT IF gas will reach 12 per gallon and more. Possibly next summer??
side note:
Batteries are recyclable and there are earth friendly ways to make electric which will be more widely used as the demand increases. Bonuses for electric power.

How long does the car keep its charge, it says good for 200 something miles a day, is that non-stop driving? Or does it eat away at that mileage with stop and go traffic or parking and having to restart the car several times a day? If you drive say only 100miles a week, would you only need to charge every other week or week? Serious questions.



