2019 Miata ND engine update - 181hp, 7500rpm redline.. your thoughts as an S2k owner?
08-27-2018, 11:42 AM
#51
I think the appeal to liking the S2k more (I admit, I totally like its' simple looks much more too, as well as having an awesome Honda dohc vtec powerplant, which I've loved since the '90s), is because it's simply almost a classic and vintage car now, but still performs very well (unlike true vintage cars that are 30-50 years old, are super slow and cannot handle well at all).
My 1971 240Z with barely-modded suspension outhandled my stock S2000, erm, HANDILY
It wasn't super-slow in a straight line either, with well-chosen engine mods. Many seconds/lap faster around both slower tracks (like NHMS) and faster tracks (like Watkins Glen) than my S2000...Not all old cars had crap for basic suspension layout, and lots of older sports cars have a pretty big weight advantage relative to 2800-lb. S2000...
08-28-2018, 10:10 AM
#52
Thread Starter
Ok... what about something like a '60s Mustang or an old MG roadster... those sound slow and crap handling ;D
Anyways.. back to the ND topic..
The ND1 has similar times as a stock S2k around certain tracks (Laguna Seca, etc.)... so, the ND2 should absolutely "slay" it now (as YTer's say nowadays).
Anyways.. back to the ND topic..
The ND1 has similar times as a stock S2k around certain tracks (Laguna Seca, etc.)... so, the ND2 should absolutely "slay" it now (as YTer's say nowadays).
09-02-2018, 09:29 AM
#54
Thread Starter
What's funny is the GT86/FRS/BRZ is rated at 200hp and 151tq (@6500rpm); but, despite this, all the Dynojet tests out there of a bone-stock GT-86 is around 160-170whp and 130-135wtq.
About maybe the same whp as the new ND2, but with significantly less wtq and also at 6500rpm (ND2 peak torque is at 4000rpm).
And being around 500lbs lighter, the ND2 will definitely be much faster than the FRS/BRZ.
There's already tons of videos showing the earlier ND1 easily beating the FRS/BRZ in a straight line... but now, the new improvements in the ND2 will make that gap even wider. Haha.
About maybe the same whp as the new ND2, but with significantly less wtq and also at 6500rpm (ND2 peak torque is at 4000rpm).
And being around 500lbs lighter, the ND2 will definitely be much faster than the FRS/BRZ.
There's already tons of videos showing the earlier ND1 easily beating the FRS/BRZ in a straight line... but now, the new improvements in the ND2 will make that gap even wider. Haha.
09-03-2018, 12:45 AM
#55
What's funny is the GT86/FRS/BRZ is rated at 200hp and 151tq (@6500rpm); but, despite this, all the Dynojet tests out there of a bone-stock GT-86 is around 160-170whp and 130-135wtq.
About maybe the same whp as the new ND2, but with significantly less wtq and also at 6500rpm (ND2 peak torque is at 4000rpm).
And being around 500lbs lighter, the ND2 will definitely be much faster than the FRS/BRZ.
There's already tons of videos showing the earlier ND1 easily beating the FRS/BRZ in a straight line... but now, the new improvements in the ND2 will make that gap even wider. Haha.
About maybe the same whp as the new ND2, but with significantly less wtq and also at 6500rpm (ND2 peak torque is at 4000rpm).
And being around 500lbs lighter, the ND2 will definitely be much faster than the FRS/BRZ.
There's already tons of videos showing the earlier ND1 easily beating the FRS/BRZ in a straight line... but now, the new improvements in the ND2 will make that gap even wider. Haha.
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09-03-2018, 02:00 PM
#56
Registered User
I can’t stand the body roll. Yes it can be fixed, but personally I also need to modify the rest of the suspension for just a tad more stiffness in general. Not much, just a tad.
The rolls is a defining characteristic and it may lead itself to be one additional reason why people say the car is very communicative. It may even be the reason why more people like it.
Also the engine is a tiny bit boring, but that too can be fixed. Intake, exhaust, top down.
If they make another new Mazdaspeed Miata, that will a turbo winner.
The rolls is a defining characteristic and it may lead itself to be one additional reason why people say the car is very communicative. It may even be the reason why more people like it.
Also the engine is a tiny bit boring, but that too can be fixed. Intake, exhaust, top down.
If they make another new Mazdaspeed Miata, that will a turbo winner.
09-04-2018, 08:04 AM
#57
I can’t stand the body roll. Yes it can be fixed, but personally I also need to modify the rest of the suspension for just a tad more stiffness in general. Not much, just a tad.
The rolls is a defining characteristic and it may lead itself to be one additional reason why people say the car is very communicative. It may even be the reason why more people like it.
Also the engine is a tiny bit boring, but that too can be fixed. Intake, exhaust, top down.
If they make another new Mazdaspeed Miata, that will a turbo winner.
The rolls is a defining characteristic and it may lead itself to be one additional reason why people say the car is very communicative. It may even be the reason why more people like it.
Also the engine is a tiny bit boring, but that too can be fixed. Intake, exhaust, top down.
If they make another new Mazdaspeed Miata, that will a turbo winner.
