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Old 05-31-2019, 07:33 AM
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https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/16/...0000-discount/

not it sure if Porsche, Lambo, MB, etc are worried about losing 30 sales/year each to Honda.
That's a heck of a deal when you compare (as the article does) to a 911 4S, which is slower, more common, doesn't look nearly as good (subjectively), etc.

$139K for an NSX with more standard features than a moderately optioned 911 4S is a bargain.
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Old 05-31-2019, 07:57 AM
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Don't forget the e-motor adds "torque fill" between shifts as well as off the line grunt.
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not it sure if Porsche, Lambo, MB, etc are worried about losing 30 sales/year each to Honda.
Per month, not per year. But yeah.
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy View Post
That's a heck of a deal when you compare (as the article does) to a 911 4S, which is slower, more common, doesn't look nearly as good (subjectively), etc.

$139K for an NSX with more standard features than a moderately optioned 911 4S is a bargain.
Around me, they have another regional discount. Was bringing the price down to $125-$130k. Have a friend who is considering it. Said the car was absolutely amazing on the track.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by white98ls View Post

Per month, not per year. But yeah.
The 2018 calendar year was the worst year in new NSX sales to date, with only 170 in total finding new homes
Not sure how you got per month
6 manufacturers (Ferrari, Lambo, Audi, Porsche, BMW, MB). 170 units.
You work out the math.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by S2020 View Post
Not sure how you got per month
6 manufacturers (Ferrari, Lambo, Audi, Porsche, BMW, MB). 170 units.
You work out the math.
Ah, right - never mind. Not to mention McLaren.

The R8 and i8 aren't selling well either and aren't long for this world.
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Damn.. forgot McLaren. So many high-end sellers out there.
Yup, R8 and i8 are not long for this world. To be fair, i8 sucks. Paying $120K+ for a car with 370hp isn't a great deal.
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Originally Posted by S2020 View Post
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not it sure if Porsche, Lambo, MB, etc are worried about losing 30 sales/year each to Honda.
I was talking about when the first nsx came out and its impact to the market.
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Adding an electric motor to give gobs of torque at low rpm allows them to tune the engine with larger turbos that will provide top-end power with a small sacrifice to low-end torque from the ICE.

50 hp is nothing to sneeze at and it adds 109 ft-lbs of torque at 0 rpm, which is very helpful. Also, since it's integrated between the transmission and the engine, it'd be difficult to remove without having to do a ton of design work and creating a bespoke transmission.

3300 lbs and 650-700 hp is hardly a losing proposition.
Agreed, but at what cost? The complication and cost added to a car that people would consider putting 60k, 100k miles on is something worth considering. Additionally, if the electric motors were necessary, why are they removing two?

They shouldve went full electric and beat the Tesla to market, or go full gas and give people an exotic at 911 prices with Honda reliability.
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McLaren 570.

$200k and a car done right, without the extra electric motors and associated weight.

If Honda does pull the electric motors, its paying attention to McLaren.
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McLaren 570.

$200k and a car done right, without the extra electric motors and associated weight.

If Honda does pull the electric motors, its paying attention to McLaren.
until you deal with the massive depreciation and reliability issues later. NSX will be discounted heavily, McLaren not so much. NSX even with the complexity of the electric motors will be more reliable than the 570. Everyone I know with a McLaren has had issues and wouldn't own one out of warranty at all.
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