5.0 Is back
12-18-2009, 05:23 AM
#22
Originally Posted by Malloric,Dec 17 2009, 10:42 PM
And the torque?
While the Mustang won't be a complete embarrassment in the engine department it'll still be handily out-classed.
While the Mustang won't be a complete embarrassment in the engine department it'll still be handily out-classed.
I'd say the Camaro is going to be handily outclassed.
12-18-2009, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 18 2009, 06:22 AM
Is the Mustang still a 5-speed? And it still has a solid rear axle?
Ford is doing so much that is right, but then holds itself back with easy fixes imo.
Ford is doing so much that is right, but then holds itself back with easy fixes imo.
I'm guessing the V8's will no longer run on regular grade gasoline.
12-18-2009, 06:32 AM
#24
Originally Posted by JonBoy,Dec 17 2009, 09:04 PM
Ford is impressing me more and more every day. While my next vehicle will need to seat three kids in car seats (I have two, will probably have another), if I had a guarantee of no more children being born, a Ford Fusion Hybrid would 100% be my next car. The latest exterior updates combined with the hybrid features makes it a home run.
12-18-2009, 06:45 AM
#25
No Mondeo, though they may bring the next generation over.
12-18-2009, 06:46 AM
#26
And yes, it's a great car. I saw a few in Argentina when I was there. Very classy car with a sporty look to it as well!
12-18-2009, 06:52 AM
#27
Originally Posted by beanseff,Dec 18 2009, 05:08 AM
yea like the gm ls, gm can't/ doesn't want to build a good sohc/dohc v8, i'm sure you remember the northstar.....looked great on paper, nothing but problems in the shop 
And yes, I do remember the northstars, but considering how BMW and Merc V8s are maitenance/repair heavy as well, it's a wash.
And it's not that they can't, they simply don't want to, why mess with year of developlement? The Corvette ZR1 had a renowned DOHC engine (granted not completely designed in house), great motor but why bother?
But what's wrong with GM's pushrod?
It's more compact, lighter, sits lower since it doesn't have the big DOHC heads, has a pretty much flat torque curve, makes ridiculous reliable relatively low maitenance power, cheap to repair, cheap to produce, efficient, burns relatively clean, I just don't see how it's bad. We compared the engine LS against the comparable M5 V10 engine which was apparently an engineering marvel, yet aside from the fact that they reinvented the wheel, the LS made more logical sense. Why reinvent the wheel? I mean, I'd rather say it makes 400hp, I get 28mpg and I haven't seen my service writer since I bought the car and its reliable as a truck motor since it shares some of its heritage with them than it makes 240hp with 2/3s the torque, 28mpg, has a proprietary variable valve timing system which decimates all, makes over 100hp/liter, has DOHC with 4 valves per cyl, and oh the valves are bent because it revs to 9000 rpms to make power but it absolutely must be because I overrevved because that's what my service writer said and the problem isn't that common...
Oh crap I poked the stick in the hornets nest again, lol.
