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Old 06-19-2019, 10:22 PM
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Whenever these new things come out, I am exactly the purchase price short of cash that it would take to buy one.
Amen. I've driven the current gt4, great car but I dunno about 100k, granted I didn't drive it on the track.

I get Porsches, would love one, but no one will ever call them good for the dollar except their resale on their special models.
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:44 AM
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Wonder if it still has the long gearing that everyone complained about with the 981 GT4?
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:20 AM
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Wonder if it still has the long gearing that everyone complained about with the 981 GT4?
Yes, apparently it does. But Porsche says broader torque band helps offset this?
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:29 AM
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Yes, apparently it does. But Porsche says broader torque band helps offset this?
I'm skeptical it'll be noticeably better.

1. While I'm sure torque will be broader given extra displacement, peak torque is unchanged so I doubt it'll be a drastic difference. I read that apparently that is due to the torque capacity of the trans.

2. The redline is higher with that same gearing, so it'll seem even longer.

3. Articles keep mentioning 3,300lbs, which is like 300lbs more than the 2016 model and I still haven't seen an explanation as to why. That's a whole lot more weight for what should be very similar components besides the engine - what gives? That's only 350lbs less than my M3 sedan (with identical displacement and hp, BTW) and that generation is the heaviest one! For a hardcore sports car with cloth straps for door handles, I'm not sure why it weighs so much now.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeD View Post
Wonder if it still has the long gearing that everyone complained about with the 981 GT4?
All Caymans, from 2006 to the present, have the same gears. All, identical. Only differences are the variation in engine redlines. And GT's head guy said they didn't change the ratios this time either.

(this doesn't apply to the base models I don't think)
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by white98ls View Post

3. Articles keep mentioning 3,300lbs, which is like 300lbs more than the 2016 model and I still haven't seen an explanation as to why. That's a whole lot more weight for what should be very similar components besides the engine - what gives? That's only 350lbs less than my M3 sedan (with identical displacement and hp, BTW) and that generation is the heaviest one! For a hardcore sports car with cloth straps for door handles, I'm not sure why it weighs so much now.
AP said in an article I read that it's how they have to calculate weight on a DIN standard or some crap. He said apples to apples the new GT4 is about 30lbs heavier, but he says you can't feel it and the extra power more than makes up for it.

I'm sure it's a sweet ride, but I'm not giving up my GT3 at all. Once you have the full 9,000rpm and 500hp, it's impossible to go backwards.
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Old 06-25-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG View Post
AP said in an article I read that it's how they have to calculate weight on a DIN standard or some crap. He said apples to apples the new GT4 is about 30lbs heavier, but he says you can't feel it and the extra power more than makes up for it.

I'm sure it's a sweet ride, but I'm not giving up my GT3 at all. Once you have the full 9,000rpm and 500hp, it's impossible to go backwards.
Oh yeah, it could be that European weight standard where it's like 90% fuel, a 160lbs driver, and 40lbs of luggage or something like that. Essentially, adding a bunch of arbitrary weight as if we didn't know that you can't drive the car without being in it... Do they weigh carbon fiber road bicycles with a 160lbs rider and a water bottle? Stupid. Ok I feel better now.
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:12 AM
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No, what they do is publish the weight of the car standard, as it is, without any weight savings options like AC delete, stereo delete, PCCBs, or carbon fiber seats. Whereas the 981 GT4's published weight was as low as it could possibly go.
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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k View Post
No, what they do is publish the weight of the car standard, as it is, without any weight savings options like AC delete, stereo delete, PCCBs, or carbon fiber seats. Whereas the 981 GT4's published weight was as low as it could possibly go.
I don't think that's the case - all of those put together might add up to at most 150lbs. Not sure why they'd change their philosophy 180 degrees from one GT4 model to the next with regards to what spec they quote weights for.
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https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1148...-engine-3.html

Ratios remain, weight gain…

If its predecessor was criticised in one area it was usually the gear ratios, which remain unchanged. Preuninger explained that the long ratios are necessary to allow it to pass global emissions standards.

Overall, weight has increased to 1420kg, but Preuninger is quick to point out changes in the way homologation vehicle weights are legally measured.

Cars must now be homologated without any weight-saving options ticked, so “this car nominally is about 60 or 80 kilos heavier on paper, but it’s only about 30 kilos heavier in real world if you compare apples to apples,” said Preuninger.

Regulations also take their toll here, with the Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder now featuring necessary, and weighty, technologies to pass stricter emissions regulations.

“I can absolutely assure you it doesn’t feel half gram heavier than the car before,” promises Preuninger.
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