Forgotten gem or just forget about it? 2005 Ford Thunderbird
06-07-2018, 03:50 AM
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Forgotten gem or just forget about it? 2005 Ford Thunderbird
I saw one of these yesterday and have to admit, I'd completely forgotten about them.
280hp V8, 3,700 pounds, and a 5-speed slushbox makes for a cruiser, but makes me wonder what an aftermarket could do.
280hp V8, 3,700 pounds, and a 5-speed slushbox makes for a cruiser, but makes me wonder what an aftermarket could do.
06-07-2018, 04:21 AM
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I think they'll be quite collectible, but would go for a totally stock one. I find them to be quite attractive and best of the retro styled cars of the era
06-07-2018, 05:32 AM
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I see them a lot. Most are worn out and have not been taken care of ... but I kinda think they were just "meh" to folks once they owned them. Was never a fan personally. Not a fan of most "retro" kinda cars though. Nothing says "ruin that original style" by trying to regurgitate it and copy it! There are some kind of exceptions for me (the challenger looks cool) but for the most part I just have a hard time getting into the whole retro look. I would just rather look at the original and have new cars have their own look.
06-07-2018, 06:46 AM
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Queue Mr Negative......
I don't see it. Here is why: We had all these retro cars that were supposed to appeal to old farts and had some 50's 60's and 70's nostalgia. The Thunderbird was one, we had that goofy Chevy pickup, the Plymouth Prowler, and probably a couple others I am forgetting. They were supposed to appeal to those people because they would be getting a chubby over the good old days. And none of them sold. So now say 20 years from now, who is really going to want to collect them? The people who were supposed to hold the nostalgia for them are all dead, and even they did not really want them in the first place. They will be rare, sure, but there are lots of rare cars that did not sell that don't become collectibles. I think the Aztek has as much a chance at becoming a collectible as a goof.
I think the cars that become valuable are the ones that were sought after when there were a few generations that grew up not being able to drive but wanting them, or being able to drive but not in a position to afford them, or once owning them, selling them and longing for another. Now that they have aged, made their money and want to collect, they collect those cars.
Sure there are guys like Jay Leno who buy anything because they have hundreds of millions, but watch a Mecum Auto Auction and when all the sixties and seventies cars roll out, it is nothing but blue-hairs buying them.
When gen X and Y and Millenials are in their top earning collecting years, the will buy old 300z's and Supras, and M3's, and relaunched Mini's. I don't think we will be looking to buy cars that were aimed at our retired parents. If I had money I'd look for MR2's or FD's, or a good 911. Not a slushbox remake that did not sell.
But I took more money out of the market and put it in cash last week. The DOW is up 600 since then.
I don't see it. Here is why: We had all these retro cars that were supposed to appeal to old farts and had some 50's 60's and 70's nostalgia. The Thunderbird was one, we had that goofy Chevy pickup, the Plymouth Prowler, and probably a couple others I am forgetting. They were supposed to appeal to those people because they would be getting a chubby over the good old days. And none of them sold. So now say 20 years from now, who is really going to want to collect them? The people who were supposed to hold the nostalgia for them are all dead, and even they did not really want them in the first place. They will be rare, sure, but there are lots of rare cars that did not sell that don't become collectibles. I think the Aztek has as much a chance at becoming a collectible as a goof.
I think the cars that become valuable are the ones that were sought after when there were a few generations that grew up not being able to drive but wanting them, or being able to drive but not in a position to afford them, or once owning them, selling them and longing for another. Now that they have aged, made their money and want to collect, they collect those cars.
Sure there are guys like Jay Leno who buy anything because they have hundreds of millions, but watch a Mecum Auto Auction and when all the sixties and seventies cars roll out, it is nothing but blue-hairs buying them.
When gen X and Y and Millenials are in their top earning collecting years, the will buy old 300z's and Supras, and M3's, and relaunched Mini's. I don't think we will be looking to buy cars that were aimed at our retired parents. If I had money I'd look for MR2's or FD's, or a good 911. Not a slushbox remake that did not sell.
But I took more money out of the market and put it in cash last week. The DOW is up 600 since then.
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06-07-2018, 07:43 AM
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06-07-2018, 07:56 AM
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A friend of mine in LA has one. He said that they've appreciated quite a bit, in most cases, if they're in decent shape. He loves his but he's not really a car guy - he just wanted a neat convertible that you don't see all the time.
I think they're a good-looking car. I wouldn't buy one but I wouldn't kick one out of my driveway, either.
I think they're a good-looking car. I wouldn't buy one but I wouldn't kick one out of my driveway, either.
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06-08-2018, 10:34 PM
#9
I like retro, I hated those cars. I liked the prowler alot but wish it came with a v8.
Those t birds looked old and half fast when new.
Those t birds looked old and half fast when new.
06-09-2018, 05:09 AM
#10
Sharing Jaguar S Type parts is not good, especially the engines.
I personally doubt these cars will ever acquire any special collector status until they're 100 years old. Many of us lust over the cars of our youth and this ain't one of them.
-- Chuck
I personally doubt these cars will ever acquire any special collector status until they're 100 years old. Many of us lust over the cars of our youth and this ain't one of them.
-- Chuck