Muscle Car HP Wars Heat Up
07-28-2006, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by vader1,Jul 28 2006, 10:21 AM
True, I hear so many people try to justify the efficiency of these thing by saying its theoretically capable of 28-30 but will deliver that maybe one tank in its design life.
400hp and great miles per gallon do not go hand in hand. Thats not to say I have anything against a 400hp car per se, it is to say that anyone who thinks it will be a great, highly practical DD is probably kidding themselves.
400hp and great miles per gallon do not go hand in hand. Thats not to say I have anything against a 400hp car per se, it is to say that anyone who thinks it will be a great, highly practical DD is probably kidding themselves.
07-28-2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Jul 27 2006, 07:24 PM
Muscle cars and sports cars aren't about the price per gallon of gas or any rationality, they are about desire and gas prices don't even enter into the picture.
Let's assume the following about the public:
15% are considered car enthusiasts.
85% are just treating cars as an appliance.
Now, the Challenger (or any sports cars and muscle cars) appeal to the 15% car enthusiasts based on desire. Rationality and economy are not considered when we want a sports car or muscle car.
Take a look at Toyota. Anything in its line-up that even creates a tiny bit of driving excitement? None! Yet Toyota is poised to take over GM by the end of this year when the number crunchings are finished. Why? Toyota's products appeal to the rest 85% of the not-so-discerning public.
Dodge already has Viper, Magnum, Ram, and Charger. They do not need an "image booster", that's why I think the Challenger does not make good business sense. Like I said eariler, for two years the enthusiasts will be scooping it up fast, after that the sale is going to take a nose dive.
07-28-2006, 09:34 AM
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"Muscle cars and sports cars aren't about the price per gallon of gas or any rationality, they are about desire and gas prices don't even enter into the picture."
I guess I am just a complete freak then because I am an auto enthusiast and I always take fuel efficiency into account.
If two cars have the same performance and about the same appeal I'll take the one with the better fuel milage. I must be a total kook.
07-28-2006, 12:27 PM
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I like it, but the 6.1 liter would be more than competitive if they can keep the weight of this thing down to the 3300 pound range. How much is this thing going to run ? If it is in Z06 territory, forget about it. If it has the 425 hp Hemi, and is in the high 30K range, it's competitor should be the 400 hp Corvette & 3800 lb. Cobra, not the 505 hp Z06.
07-28-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tinkfist,Jul 28 2006, 08:20 AM
If you are getting a monster car, you ought to just get a second sub-2 liter econobox to balance things out.
07-28-2006, 06:52 PM
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Look at Honda. Honda has the highest CAFE in all auto manufacturers who sell cars and trucks in the United States. Honda can't even sell Ridgelines and Pilots without heavy incentives ($2000 and $3000 respectively). Take for granted the Pilot is old, but then again it points out that 'newness' and gas mileage play important roles nowadays.
True, I hear so many people try to justify the efficiency of these thing by saying its theoretically capable of 28-30 but will deliver that maybe one tank in its design life.
I guess I am just a complete freak then because I am an auto enthusiast and I always take fuel efficiency into account.
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Originally Posted by Dr. WOT,Jul 28 2006, 07:26 AM
Do I need a mullet to buy one, or can I grow it in after the fact?