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Old 04-24-2010, 04:17 AM
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:20 AM
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viper is still king of PRODUCTION cars...obviously not race cars.
Old 04-24-2010, 05:45 AM
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Watching the driver bounce around so much make me realize how rough that track is.

You naysayers are just jealous, that was awesome.
Old 04-24-2010, 06:52 AM
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I always get nervous for the carousel.
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Autoblog basically botched up this story, the video references it as a "Production Derived" car, which is fair. That phrase obviously opens the door to pure race cars with a street car body, so it's a very slippery slope in terms of where you draw the line.

Either way, < 7:00 is bloody quick no matter how you slice it.
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In that case, I think the Radical still holds the record (6:48) since it is street legal in the UK.
Old 04-24-2010, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. WOT,Apr 24 2010, 06:54 AM
Autoblog basically botched up this story, the video references it as a "Production Derived" car, which is fair. That phrase obviously opens the door to pure race cars with a street car body, so it's a very slippery slope in terms of where you draw the line.

Either way, < 7:00 is bloody quick no matter how you slice it.
I think that about sums it up. Production based is a very slippery slope. The GT2 cars are production based but even that is somewhat up for debate. I mean what is production based vs a race car that uses some production parts? For instance, the GT2 cars are clearly somewhat related to their production cousins but how much? I don't know if they start off with a road car, strip it then build it up as a race car or do they start off with some production parts that never actually saw production (a bare frame etc) and turn it into a race car? Who knows. In any case it does lead to some rather questionable definitions and less than apples to apples comparisons. I think once you get much beyond GT2 it's hard to call a car production based but I can at least acknowledge GT2 cars as production based. Of course those GT2 cars would be even faster if they neglected some of the bothersome GT2 rules such as engine inlet restrictors...

Great for Ferrari for turning a fast time but I'm not sure it demonstrates much other than race prepped cars can be much faster than stock volume production cars that are expected to deliver both speed and relative comfort.
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Originally Posted by Edge2K,Apr 24 2010, 09:52 AM
I always get nervous for the carousel.
Best part!
Old 04-24-2010, 08:10 PM
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Slippery slope yes. Consider that most everyone on this board owns a car that is just an exhaust or a set of coilovers away from being 'not street legal'.
The street legality doesn't really matter to me because you can make 700 hp in that car easily aftermarket, you could lower it and tune the suspension, and you could put similar tires on it.
To me, it' more a matter of how close to a production car is it? Does it have the same chassis and body, interior, suspension, transmission, engine block? This particular car still lands in gray area but I think it is dumb just to dismiss the performance because you think it is less legal than a set of headers or whatever.

That video is crazy, legal or not.
Old 04-24-2010, 08:26 PM
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I think what's most impressive is the fact that a Nissan GT-R with full interior, tons of weight (literally) and street tires can do the lap within 40 seconds of the race-prepped 700-horsepower Ferrari.

(No I'm not a GT-R fanboy, I just find it interesting)


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