white98ls

I'd have to drive a Supra first, but my preference right now would lean Cayman. It's mid-engined, ~350lbs lighter, manual available, and that amazing Porsche chassis. Only significant downside for me is engine note.

I did the Porsche Experience Center in L.A. last year and drove the Cayman S and 911 C2S back to back repeatedly. Although I really fell for the 911 (better engine, believe it or not had more progressive, forgiving handling), the Cayman was 90% of the C2S experience for 2/3rds the price. I really need to drive a 981.1 - or better yet, a 981 Boxster Spyder

mosesbotbol

Between the two, I doubt I would even test drive the Supra. If I didn't need any utility, it would be a tough choice between the Cayman and 4C. Cayman is more capable and better built, but the 4C is a work of art with better steering and incredible braking.

ZDan

Yeah, the car is pretty fantastic IMO. I did three basic mods: wheels/tires, camber plates and lowering springs, and won my first event in the club I do time trials with, won 5/7 for the year (traded couple of wins with another BRZ, Miata drivers were cryin). Won 2018 class and overall club championships with it. The car is very fun to drive and responds fantastically to mods. It is a tragedy that they didn't just mod the FT86 chassis to be a cab-rearward 2 seater and plop an NA Lexus V6 in it for the new Supra, that'da been brilliant...

TheDonEffect

Awesome! Yeah I sold mine after a few months, engine didnt do it for me, went to the deep end and got a shelby, then sold it for another S. Now I kinda regret selling the frs because it was a 2014 monogram stick in silver, like new condition.

I've been toying with the idea of getting another 86, for me the letdown is the engine otherwise that car was awesome. I found the handling to be at least more fun than the s, the car is just so easy to drive it just makes me giggle. I think a carb legal supercharger and some better wheels will be enough to me.

ZDan

Agree with base Cayman w limited options as the way to go. But I'da spent money on LSD, PASM, and sport seats over silly Miami Vice paint!

And I *like* the look of smaller diameter wheels with taller-sidewall tires I think 17s should still be available on this car. Unfortunately with the 981 the car just physically bulked up a lot, so visually Porsche probably felt the need to go with 18s as smallest diameter. I swear I've seen frontal view of newer post-987 Caymans on the road approaching from a distance and thought "damn, that Panamera looks alright!" only to discover it was a Cayman. It's just too, *voluminous* relative to the 987...

mosesbotbol

Same here.

CMK

Are the 18s necessary for the rotors?

white98ls

13.0" F and 11.8" rear. It depends on the calipers, but judging by the fact that my old E39 M5 had 13.6" fronts and certain 17" wheels would fit, I'm guessing no.