s2000Junky

The S2000 has a top? Didn't realize since its always down

S2020

Yup, to each their own. I agree that my personal experience and preference do not represent that of others.
Just sharing my own viewpoint. I used to not want a newer sportscar because they don't come with manual anymore. However, I changed my mind after driving one for a while. The other attributes of the cars listed outweighs the lack of manual shift. Keep an open mind. It's great that we are able to try different cars and make up our own minds.
As far as the speed goes. Trust me, you'll use it and get used to it. People want more power. Otherwise, why would anyone buy anything faster than a Miata. Why would AMG, M, RS, V, F classes exists. People simply buyer regular versions of the same cars.

rob-2

well it was faster then the z3 it was competing against at the p car. Speed did matter back then, it’s just everything else caught up.

imagine the f22c as a v8, now that’s a motor.

Bullwings

I could imagine it as a 4.0 NA flat-6 revving to 9000 rpm and making more than 500hp. It is an incredible motor...

mosesbotbol

The engine in the GT350 Shelby

s2000Junky

Any flat plane crank v8 would do. Ferrari would be the first that comes to mind. But then again, I couldn't afford to put 200,000 miles on one.

s2000Junky

Don't forget the Boxter as well. When the S2000 came out, the Boxter made like 202hp. They upped the game pretty quick after that, but the chassis was still a slush box in handling in comparison, just like the BMW. Like the NSX, the S2000 forced the Europeans to figure out what it meant to have a scalpel of a convertible road racer.

You want the feeling of a flat plane crank F22, supercharge it to about 12psi and you will get a pretty accurate duplication of the power curve at 400whp/260trq at 8500rpm. That's comparable to a F430 engine power figures. But the S2000 is lighter of course.

rob-2

Yup, the engine Honda should have made and put in the NSX. Instead Ford and GM will do it. Selling boat loads of them to boot!

mosesbotbol

That engine is such a beast, but not so Honda-like. I wish Honda stuck with the V10 plan; would've been so F1 and cool.

If another S2000 style cars comes out from Honda, I'd like to see the RPM's go even higher. Much to the decry of many here, are great paddle shifting gear box would be a must. Something that is actually fun to shift.

My take is that paddles get a bad rep from those who despise them not getting a chance to drive a car where the paddles shine. They're faster and easier to deal with in traffic than a manual. Makes the interior space more efficient.

Would also like to see braking taken to even better than before.

s2000Junky

That as it may be, many of us still take much enjoyment in working a clutch pedal and rowing through gears and thus also take a lot of pride in doing it well, whether its on a day to day basis or on a racetrack. There is also a level of command and control you have over the car dynamically with a manual you just cant duplicate any other way, those who run their cars on the track "competitively" know what I speak of. But I recognize there is a point where a manual just isn't practically effective anymore when you get up to some of these ridiculous hp numbers in todays supercars, but the vast majority of sports cars under 700hp would manage just fine, and rather have gone away simply due to the market.