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Old 12-05-2012, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FurY
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From what I can see and read, the improvements for 2013 are not so dramatic that the 2012 qualifies to be considered the bastard of the Si family - as many Honda fans seem to think of it that way.
I have to disagree... if you look at the styling the '13 looks MUCH better than the '12. I would not have even considered a '12 based on the way they looked but now the '13 has me giving it some thought. Granted, underneath it all the changes may be minor, but looks go a long way imo and the '13 does make the '12 look rather pedestrian. Resale on the '12's will take a hit since people will want the newer design in the long run.
Then we will have to agree to disagree. I will say that the styling is better, but I would not go as far to say that is a vast improvement over the 2012.

As I said earlier, I don't know why people expect Honda to make cars that are pretty. Historically it really isn't their thing, their cars are normally bland and simple - with just a few exceptions over the years.
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Why is anyone comparing the Civic to the Dart? The Dart is huuuuuuuuge and weighs more than the Accord and Nissan Altima. Dodge is trying to take the easy way out here and not compete directly with the Civic by positioning it as a larger car.
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Originally Posted by FurY
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i doubt resale for the 2012 will be effected at all, it is still a Civic and like others have posted, nobody buys a Civic because it is leading edge, or a cool & hip car.
Perhaps, but I still think if someone is given the option of having the looks of the '13+ over the '12, they'll most likely lean to the '13 unless they find a great condition '12 with low mileage or in mint condition. Add to that that nearly every automotive review site bashed the '12 pretty bad on looks... if a person in the market for a used Si does their research that will probably sway them as well.

Again, underneath it all it is mostly the same and I understand that, but there is a reason Honda brought out a refresh ahead of schedule... people generally did not like or care for the '12's styling. Yes it may be just a commuter car, that's all the Civic ever has been... but even as a commuter car, wouldn't you rather have something that has better styling or looks mildly sporty as opposed to a bland Toyota look alike?

For the record, I used to own the true bastard Si (02-05 gen) so I do have some point of reference on what I'm talking about since I've been down that road once before.
and even with being bashed, the 2012 and all its plain ness still was a very good seller. Again, people dont buy a Civic to be flashy, they buy it for what it is, an econobox that is cheap to own and very reliable
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Originally Posted by FearlessFife
Originally Posted by FurY' timestamp='1354647715' post='22189445
[quote name='FearlessFife' timestamp='1354635643' post='22188865']
From what I can see and read, the improvements for 2013 are not so dramatic that the 2012 qualifies to be considered the bastard of the Si family - as many Honda fans seem to think of it that way.
I have to disagree... if you look at the styling the '13 looks MUCH better than the '12. I would not have even considered a '12 based on the way they looked but now the '13 has me giving it some thought. Granted, underneath it all the changes may be minor, but looks go a long way imo and the '13 does make the '12 look rather pedestrian. Resale on the '12's will take a hit since people will want the newer design in the long run.
Then we will have to agree to disagree. I will say that the styling is better, but I would not go as far to say that is a vast improvement over the 2012.

As I said earlier, I don't know why people expect Honda to make cars that are pretty. Historically it really isn't their thing, their cars are normally bland and simple - with just a few exceptions over the years.[/quote]


i could not agree more.
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