BMW i3
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From: Ulaanbaatar
BMW i3
I'm liking this.
Pretty pricey, but very interesting. And nice to see a modern dashboard being true to itself and not an homage to retro displays; there's simple rectangular LCD displays.
Lovely interior too.
And it's on sale now.
Pretty pricey, but very interesting. And nice to see a modern dashboard being true to itself and not an homage to retro displays; there's simple rectangular LCD displays.
Lovely interior too.
And it's on sale now.
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From: Hertford
It's another overstyled, scribbly mess inside and out and the twatpod displays needn't be quite so wannabe. They are in principle a good idea; less is invariably more.
As is the car a good idea; the cf shell with plastic panels means its very light, despite its C19 propulsion system. I dunno how they can do it for the price.
It's actually a new BMW I'd like to try.
Obviously, I'd sooner have a Clarity with a propulsion system from the 1960s and low-built Accord-based suspension...
As is the car a good idea; the cf shell with plastic panels means its very light, despite its C19 propulsion system. I dunno how they can do it for the price.
It's actually a new BMW I'd like to try.
Obviously, I'd sooner have a Clarity with a propulsion system from the 1960s and low-built Accord-based suspension...
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LOL... S'funny thing taste; the i3 interior would do me nicely.
The usual hectares of dark, hard (or soft for that matter) plastics taint even a nice car with a grim interior environment IMHO. In fact a bit like my RX-8, only its red stitching on the Recaros and a few other areas provide some relief from the gloom...
There's some interesting textures combined in the interior i3 which remind me of that in my first gen' Panda; hammock seats and upholstered dashboard (aka trough...) together with body coloured metalwork.
Like it or not, flat, touch-screens will be as common as electric windows very soon as there's a compelling case for the accountants to insist upon their use. No complex moulded components for a lens, pointers, numeric calibrations, no obsolete stepper motors and of course no requirement for the subsequent assembly of the whole gubbins... only a nice touch screen sourced for pennies with an simple interface into OBD for all the information a driver needs (and doesn't). But hopefully some software skins appear to turn mundane displays into ones which allude to (or mimic) retro Jaeger or Veglia Borletti instruments from bygone times.
I would like one of those linear speedometers from a sixties Austin 1100/1300; the possibilities are endless... an LCARS interface!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXH9UeBjO24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htWInA3mts&noredirect=1
The usual hectares of dark, hard (or soft for that matter) plastics taint even a nice car with a grim interior environment IMHO. In fact a bit like my RX-8, only its red stitching on the Recaros and a few other areas provide some relief from the gloom...
There's some interesting textures combined in the interior i3 which remind me of that in my first gen' Panda; hammock seats and upholstered dashboard (aka trough...) together with body coloured metalwork.
Like it or not, flat, touch-screens will be as common as electric windows very soon as there's a compelling case for the accountants to insist upon their use. No complex moulded components for a lens, pointers, numeric calibrations, no obsolete stepper motors and of course no requirement for the subsequent assembly of the whole gubbins... only a nice touch screen sourced for pennies with an simple interface into OBD for all the information a driver needs (and doesn't). But hopefully some software skins appear to turn mundane displays into ones which allude to (or mimic) retro Jaeger or Veglia Borletti instruments from bygone times.
I would like one of those linear speedometers from a sixties Austin 1100/1300; the possibilities are endless... an LCARS interface!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXH9UeBjO24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htWInA3mts&noredirect=1
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From: Hertford
Indeed. Or you could turn it on end and have the 'fever thermometer' display like an old M-B Heckflosse/Fintail.
Although you should never let fucking accountants have any say in car design. Or any other design. Remember the Ford Escort?
The biggest problem is trying to use a touchscreen on a bumpy road. You can use a knob without looking at it. This is why the 928, CX, NSX (just) and S2000 have such great dashboard layouts. You shouldn't let young, inexperienced goatee twats design anything, either, some to that.
But it would still probably be better than these current 'joystick' things and silly sub-menus.
I like black. I wear black. Black cars. Black interiors. Black, black, blaaaaccck!!!
Although you should never let fucking accountants have any say in car design. Or any other design. Remember the Ford Escort?
The biggest problem is trying to use a touchscreen on a bumpy road. You can use a knob without looking at it. This is why the 928, CX, NSX (just) and S2000 have such great dashboard layouts. You shouldn't let young, inexperienced goatee twats design anything, either, some to that.
But it would still probably be better than these current 'joystick' things and silly sub-menus.
I like black. I wear black. Black cars. Black interiors. Black, black, blaaaaccck!!!
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All the MR said the last Ford Escort would be a success because it would provide everything Joe-public said (and indeed thought) he wanted. But all it took was a enlightened design from competitors to kill it dead because they conceived and developed form and function thicko's would never imagine.
And of course, as someone who's worked extensively in Market Research, there's my favourite quotation; 'There's lies, there's damn lies and there's Market Research'.
MR is the crutch on the incompetent marketer/product planner who has no vision and no spine to make a decision. I have heard it many times before 'But the market research said...'.
Hmmm... turned into a bit of a rant that!
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From: Hertford
The self-fulfilling prophecy of the questions usually makes me smirk. Might as well ask "do you like product A or do you look at children with bad intent?"
Also focus groups where no-one's got the guts to disagree with the consensus and tell them it's boring. I'd be like a nightmare...
It wasn't as much the Escort was focussed to death; everything about it was as cheap and nasty as possible. The engine castings looked like I done them in a kids' sandpit, the plastics, everything made a Lada or Zastava look decent. Body looked like it was made out of pattern parts, squitty little lights like they were from the 1960s, etc.
It screamed "this is all you deserve you misreable little debt slaves" and it was a wonder they sold so many. Of course, they went to the scrapper early because they were shit. Which was good.
Also focus groups where no-one's got the guts to disagree with the consensus and tell them it's boring. I'd be like a nightmare...
It wasn't as much the Escort was focussed to death; everything about it was as cheap and nasty as possible. The engine castings looked like I done them in a kids' sandpit, the plastics, everything made a Lada or Zastava look decent. Body looked like it was made out of pattern parts, squitty little lights like they were from the 1960s, etc.
It screamed "this is all you deserve you misreable little debt slaves" and it was a wonder they sold so many. Of course, they went to the scrapper early because they were shit. Which was good.