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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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Default Button / Honda get some flack...

Sounds about right too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motors...time-to-go.html
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:40 AM
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I applied for a job there about a month ago, and apparently they're still deciding. This is why they're crap: not employing me.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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Hmm....

I think next season will be the decider.

Honda made the crucial error of taking their eye off the ball when things were just starting to go their way.

Not only that, they reduced the overall F1 budget too.

Oh, and the guy has his stats wrong - Button won his race in 2006, not 2007

He was also wrong about the S2000 not being as desireable as the MX-5.

But then again, he's a Journalist - talking about things he doesn't do or know about is his job.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,Oct 11 2008, 01:49 PM
I think next season will be the decider.
Well they keep saying they're putting everything into next year's car. I expect the shit will hit the fan if they get the new car and discover they're still slow.

All the Honda F1 success talked about in that article was as an engine supplier, so maybe they should have just stuck with that.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Given the reaction by Honda (& BMW) to the latest single engine suggestions for 2010 then Button could well be looking for a new ride after next year. Don't expect there will be a queue of team principals outside his door.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Rather scathing - even the S2000 gets a swipe

I do agree with the sentiments behind the article.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NNervous_R,Oct 11 2008, 05:51 PM
Given the reaction by Honda (& BMW) to the latest single engine suggestions for 2010
Add to that the removal of F1 from North America (Honda and BMW's biggest market) and I think you're right.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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The MX5 is more desirable than the S2000, to hairdressers especially....

But I don't personally like the look of it at all, I see MX5 drivers give a sneaky glance at my S2000 and I think deep down they know they made the wrong decision.

Add to that, the S2000 hasn't had much of a facelift since launch (as it has never really needed it), unlike the MX5...
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SlimJ GBR,Oct 11 2008, 06:19 PM
The MX5 is more desirable than the S2000, to hairdressers especially....

But I don't personally like the look of it at all, I see MX5 drivers give a sneaky glance at my S2000 and I think deep down they know they made the wrong decision.

Add to that, the S2000 hasn't had much of a facelift since launch (as it has never really needed it), unlike the MX5...
The best MX-5 was the Gen 2. Really had an excellent handling balance, just lacked the power.

Even the Turbo version was lacking....



I agree with Dembo - if they aren't in the top 3 manufacturers and at least in the top six by merit alone, I expect the plug will be pulled.
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