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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 06:40 AM
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Reading the Metro today and I note the front page is all about car hacking. Two blokes in the US are suggesting that with the correct computer equipment, they can over-ride the computer in a car and take control of the brakes, steering, accelerator, seatbelts, airbags etc.

This all sounds very worrying to me - especially if such a thing could ever be done remotely (they demonstrated it by connecting their Macbook to the car). I can see the benefit in terms of the police having such power, to bring dangerous drivers to a safe and controlled stop for instance, but this kind of technology could be terrifying if it gets into the wrong hands.

I mean, what would happen if someone hacked into your car and made you listed to Radio 4.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 06:58 AM
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you could actively 'encourage' middle lane warriors to move over... or that BMW tailing you to back off a bit...
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by phil121081
you could actively 'encourage' middle lane warriors to move over... or that BMW tailing you to back off a bit...
Now you mention it, this sounds like a fantastic idea. We could all spend our time driving each others cars for them
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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I locked the keys in the boot of the Merc recently.
MB MOBILO came out and it appeared he Blue-toothed into the ECU and next thing the door and bonnet were up and the alarm goes off.
A few seconds later - silence.
Requires a complete reload after (20mins) and seems that its live to MB Germany for security, but nevertheless its clever stuff

Most oem diagnostics can drive all the actuators on the car, I could do everything to the BMW from the laptop, even run the washers.

Steve
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 01:01 AM
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bit of a non story, you need to plug into the car first. if everyone fits a bluetooth dongle to their odb it'll work
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
bit of a non story, you need to plug into the car first. if everyone fits a bluetooth dongle to their odb it'll work
OBD can't control the steering, brakes or throttle, at least not on my car. I suppose somebody driving past could read your fault codes without permission.

I remember scare stories about this years ago.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH RADIO 4 !!!!!!
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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quietly ...
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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pist, I am Mutt and jeff,
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Seems VW are worried enough about wireless hacking to get a House of Lords injunction to stop a presentation on it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07...zled_by_lords/

..and for my quite old Mk4 Golf if you have access to the OBD2 port you can do a lot more that read fault codes - pairing a remote keyfob being one of the easier things you can do - cracking the immobiliser chip (getting the PIN code for the clocks where the immobiliser is) can also be done, it's DBW so I suppose it would be possible to change the calibration on the TPS sensor by modifying one of the sensor blocks too - and we are talking about a 12 year old car here so newer ones I'm sure you'll have access to more functionality.
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