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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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My daily driver plain-vanilla Cooper is in the dealer today having a couple of issues attended to and the loaner is a Cooper S.

I can't say I had paid much interest in the Cooper S but having just driven it 50 or so miles on the motor way and twisty bits, it's an impressive car. Terrific handling and the power delivery is seamless - albeit there is torque steer. It would be 'interesting' really going for it out of a damp corner I suspect.

Used as 99.9% of the people would use the car, the torque it has makes for really relaxed quick driving.

Not for me, but I can now appreciate why they're so popular.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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I like them but don't like the 'girlie image'.Shame really.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Is it the old belt-drive puffer or the new fart-driven one? Tip; if you can see past Big Ben in the dash, it's probably the original Mini.

I'm still not convinced by FWD turbos.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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Once upon a time i owned the original Mini cooper but i don't see the point of those retro thingies
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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My father has an 07 cooper s works, lovely car but a lot of torque steer. Great fun but no top down
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jml,Jan 18 2008, 11:02 AM
Once upon a time i owned the original Mini cooper but i don't see the point of those retro thingies
The Z-axle basically.

At least the fun to drive thing survived from the Issigonis Mini. (Just invented a new brand, I should invoice someone).
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 03:03 AM
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had a '52 Cooper S before the S2000. Horrible build quality and sounded like a milk float. Was not sad to say goodbye..
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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I thought the finish was a tad rough in parts, too.

Funny; quite a few owners seem to be very disappointed with them, yet the press is obsessed with them. Is that because they're BMWs?
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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i've never rated the MINI's.
never driven one, but just the entire car's styling, sit on, not sit IN seats, that huge ugly center dial and what seems very plasticy dash. i heard the handling is good though...

real BMW's i get
mini - nope. not a clue why it's so big.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Thing is, it isn't anymore. You need a stepladder to get into a Polo now.

I know Mini's footprint is the same as a Maestros (!), but if you had evolved the original design on a proper model cycle (it was an Anglia [or C segment] originally, but much smaller) it's not actually far wrong.

But again, The 500 is more in the true spirit of the size of its antecedent, I suppose.

Yes, if you park a Mini next to an E36, you see where the axles came from. But post-2000, all cars became suddenly, ridiculously large. It's all a bit "white rabbit" (Jefferson Airplane) to me.
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