Not a bad idea for a protest
http://motoring.aol.co.uk/whatcha-gonna-do...221065709990006
non-violent
doesn't impose on your fellow humans
and keeps the roads clear for the emergency services
sadly, I suspect the nation is too apathetic
and too many people can't afford to be late/miss work
hence the successful introduction of successive stealth taxes
so I still think tactical roadblocks are the way to do it
unfortunately that would affect the emergency services
non-violent
doesn't impose on your fellow humans
and keeps the roads clear for the emergency services
sadly, I suspect the nation is too apathetic
and too many people can't afford to be late/miss work
hence the successful introduction of successive stealth taxes
so I still think tactical roadblocks are the way to do it
unfortunately that would affect the emergency services
Originally Posted by Bibbs,Jan 4 2007, 07:49 PM
Good idea, but it would take me about 90 mins where it's 30 in the car. It'd also cost me about 3 times the amount.
I'd also have to put up with members of the general public.
I'd also have to put up with members of the general public.
Direct action (as evidenced in the fuel crisis) does
And it doesn't have to be malicious and violent
Furthermore, we'll have to make a sacrifice (as your post shows) to make the point
It will never be completely painless or I suspect it will be ineffective
Won't happen because most people like to shout and complain but do not want to actually do anything about things (internet forums are great example of this
). You have to conclude that things aren't THAT bad else people would do things about it. When things ARE that bad then people will demonstrate and the govt know this so they can raise prices/taxes etc. at will because people can, ultimately, afford it. People WILL travel to work, they WILL complain that it's too expensive yet they won't sell their nice car for a cheap 5/10 year old diesel, they won't sell their TV/Stereos, they won't go on efficiency drives etc. However, most people will have to do this to afford to travel to work but it's not THAT expensive at the moment to force their hands.
I like nice things, don't we all, but we have to make some sacrifices (although people don't seem to accept they have to do this). My 'protest' against expensive transport is not to use it. I cycle to work rather than train/bus/car and it frees up cash to (in a way ironically) afford two cars.
Ken loses out too and doesn't get my cash
However I do accept that this isn't practical for everyone but it is if you journey is less than 5 miles IMO. Get fit as well so eat less so more money on (ironically again) eating out etc.
Bascially what I'm saying is I don't like how expensive it is to use public (and private) transport so I don't. It's the most effective protest as no-one gets my money (apart from coupla hundred
). You have to conclude that things aren't THAT bad else people would do things about it. When things ARE that bad then people will demonstrate and the govt know this so they can raise prices/taxes etc. at will because people can, ultimately, afford it. People WILL travel to work, they WILL complain that it's too expensive yet they won't sell their nice car for a cheap 5/10 year old diesel, they won't sell their TV/Stereos, they won't go on efficiency drives etc. However, most people will have to do this to afford to travel to work but it's not THAT expensive at the moment to force their hands.I like nice things, don't we all, but we have to make some sacrifices (although people don't seem to accept they have to do this). My 'protest' against expensive transport is not to use it. I cycle to work rather than train/bus/car and it frees up cash to (in a way ironically) afford two cars.
Ken loses out too and doesn't get my cash
However I do accept that this isn't practical for everyone but it is if you journey is less than 5 miles IMO. Get fit as well so eat less so more money on (ironically again) eating out etc.Bascially what I'm saying is I don't like how expensive it is to use public (and private) transport so I don't. It's the most effective protest as no-one gets my money (apart from coupla hundred
Agree with everything written. The public like to moan and whinge but will do nothing, quite happy to be taken from behind by Blair et. al.
My favourite idea was that we all just stay at home one day a week (Monday gets my vote) and not use the car at all. See how long that takes for someone to sit up and take notice. This idea gains more credence when you examine what happened on January 2nd when a lot of people pulled a sickie or booked an extra days holiday.
My favourite idea was that we all just stay at home one day a week (Monday gets my vote) and not use the car at all. See how long that takes for someone to sit up and take notice. This idea gains more credence when you examine what happened on January 2nd when a lot of people pulled a sickie or booked an extra days holiday.
All for it, unfortunately its always someone elses problem in this Country and we lask the French protest gene.
Howabout for one week EVERYONE in the UK drive within the law. The Police would be bankrupt. I wonder how much revenue would be lost and how they would pay the wages of all the turgid scum that fuc.....er I mean the camera technicians who regularly service their fixed sites?
Howabout for one week EVERYONE in the UK drive within the law. The Police would be bankrupt. I wonder how much revenue would be lost and how they would pay the wages of all the turgid scum that fuc.....er I mean the camera technicians who regularly service their fixed sites?
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Originally Posted by reg,Jan 5 2007, 10:44 AM
All for it, unfortunately its always someone elses problem in this Country and we lask the French protest gene.
Howabout for one week EVERYONE in the UK drive within the law. The Police would be bankrupt. I wonder how much revenue would be lost and how they would pay the wages of all the turgid scum that fuc.....er I mean the camera technicians who regularly service their fixed sites?
Howabout for one week EVERYONE in the UK drive within the law. The Police would be bankrupt. I wonder how much revenue would be lost and how they would pay the wages of all the turgid scum that fuc.....er I mean the camera technicians who regularly service their fixed sites?
If no revenue were to be gained, there would be far fewer speed cameras and we'd know once and for all whether speed really does kill, but the pro-speeders are too apathetic to apply any sort of self-discipline on themselves (I speed but refuse to whinge about speed cameras). Their journeys and time are far too important to actually not speed, even though journey times are actually governed in the main by other factors such as waiting at roundabouts, trafic lights and in queues (in most of the suburban/urban UK at least). Add to that that the vast majority of car journeys are of 15 minutes or so, there is very little to be gained from speeding in any case.
As for the protest, very few people will pay
I think it's a great idea.
I'd take pubic lice transport to work that day.
Another one I came up with a few years ago (when the underground was sooo dangerous, you'd need to be mad to use it, but still the brainless computers did!) was if they all cashed in their season tickets on the same day, it would bankrupt the system. They could've bought tickets until their re-application went through, so they'd not actually be fare-dodging, as such.
The politicos would have been forced to take note due to the ensuing financial crisis.
I suggested the same regarding the 31 January tax payments too. Especially if employers refused to hand over thir 19 January PAYE/CIS deductions. That'd make them take note that we're fed up of their stupid bureacracy, IR35, CIS idiocy, etc, etc.
But who took any notice? F ucking Nobody, that's who took notice...
The British deserve it, and it will keep the poor people in their sheds off the roads, too.
I'd take pubic lice transport to work that day.
Another one I came up with a few years ago (when the underground was sooo dangerous, you'd need to be mad to use it, but still the brainless computers did!) was if they all cashed in their season tickets on the same day, it would bankrupt the system. They could've bought tickets until their re-application went through, so they'd not actually be fare-dodging, as such.
The politicos would have been forced to take note due to the ensuing financial crisis.
I suggested the same regarding the 31 January tax payments too. Especially if employers refused to hand over thir 19 January PAYE/CIS deductions. That'd make them take note that we're fed up of their stupid bureacracy, IR35, CIS idiocy, etc, etc.
But who took any notice? F ucking Nobody, that's who took notice...
The British deserve it, and it will keep the poor people in their sheds off the roads, too.








