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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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An interesting perspective.

I wonder if you would be as sanguine if your own activities were affected by corruption...
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Polemicist
An interesting perspective.

I wonder if you would be as sanguine if your own activities were affected by corruption...
Sorry, have we suddenly changed government?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Polemicist
An interesting perspective.

I wonder if you would be as sanguine if your own activities were affected by corruption...
In fairness though like I said the man isn't raping or murdering anyone. He's not exploiting the poor or average man so far as I can see. He's getting one over on men who if they had his level of cunning would quite happily do the same to him, or you or me.

The only action he's taken that I can see directly inconveniences your average person was selling the TV rights to Sky. And I still watch it without paying so am I any better?

He's by no stretch a good man, but I admire he doesn't pretend to be.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Agree with all the above...no new material as it was all in a book I read last year called "No Angel"

Panorama is a waste of money these days.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Polemicist
An interesting perspective.

I wonder if you would be as sanguine if your own activities were affected by corruption...
I have been for many years as a realist, understanding that communism is an ideology and consumerism is the reality
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Old May 1, 2014 | 01:07 AM
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Eccelstone is a short arsed irritating cnut - I've met him, unfortunately. Eddie Jordan is a decent guy however.

When so many people are scraping the barrel, and counting the pennies, I see no reason why one man should rake in so much money - it's capitalism at it's worse. Communism had a few good merits that society could learn from.

Whilst Bernie isn't directly charging those on the bread line, his high prices do, down the line, impact on common joe public.

All human beings were created equal, and I'm not saying that everyone should receive the same amount for wildly differing jobs, but the disparity between the uber rich and poor is sickening. Eccelstone and his tax dodging measures are, in my opinion, disgusting.

Back OT, Panorama was poor.

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Old May 1, 2014 | 03:43 AM
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All human beings were created equal
Yeah but you said yourself "Eccelstone is a short arsed irritating cnut - I've met him, unfortunately. Eddie Jordan is a decent guy however."

So two men obviously not created equally but within the same set of boundaries and restrictions we as a society enforce and one has quantifiably achieved more than the other. And both have achieved more than me or you. I'm not bitter about that fact I just don't have what it takes to prosper like they have not through bad luck or my situation, I'm just not wired that way, less equal you might say. But at least I'm not short

The trickle down effect is has to me is I can't afford to pay ticket prices to go to a race and it's broadcast on a pay service. But it's a luxury item we're not talking about a supermarket fixing prices or financial organisations engineering economic crisis that causes my salary to be frozen while actual costs of living sky rocket. And like I said I have no qualms about watching it without having paid for a subscription.

And that nice man Eddie Jordan, wasn't he named as one of the people taking a bung from him?
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Old May 3, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by loftust
Eccelstone is a short arsed irritating cnut - I've met him, unfortunately. Eddie Jordan is a decent guy however.

When so many people are scraping the barrel, and counting the pennies, I see no reason why one man should rake in so much money - it's capitalism at it's worse. Communism had a few good merits that society could learn from.

Whilst Bernie isn't directly charging those on the bread line, his high prices do, down the line, impact on common joe public.

All human beings were created equal, and I'm not saying that everyone should receive the same amount for wildly differing jobs, but the disparity between the uber rich and poor is sickening. Eccelstone and his tax dodging measures are, in my opinion, disgusting.

Back OT, Panorama was poor.

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No - it's crony capitalism (AKA fascism) & it's what we have everywhere these days. That's why the income gap is getting wider and the illuminati are cushioned from their errors.

Communism will always fail, because central planning cannot price resources efficiently as can a true, free-market capitalism. If we had that...

It's also the reason that Pantyrama as been absolute 100th-rate sensationalist shite for a very long time now.

PS - we may be born equal, but we're not raised equal; that's why there will always be winners & losers. Unfortunately, the latter is positively encouraged these days and the former very frowned upon.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 01:42 AM
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Nick talks sense as usual ( once you decode it )
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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
Communism will always fail, because central planning cannot price resources efficiently as can a true, free-market capitalism. If we had that...
Assuming the pricing of resources continues to be relevant.

Central planning (regardless of the ideological label attached to it), with an effective executive management, must happen. The integrity of an executive management hierarchy has thus far been the problem, but perhaps some form of ethically constrained A.I., in combination with 'decent' individuals is the key.

With Gort as an enforcer of last resort...
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