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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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I heard there were build quality issues with the Z4. What's it like?
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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fletch,May 14 2008, 01:00 PM
I really don't understand what it is, but I could never buy a BMW.. Or a Porch
It's the stigma
They are lovely cars to drive and all that, but it just seems that most of the uncourteous drivers are in German cars. Audi and Mercedes are getting to be just as bad as the BMW.



Sorry
I find I get more respect from BMW drivers when I'm in the S2000. But Audi and Mini Cooper drivers, especially the latter, I have found to be really aggressive like they're trying to prove a point (whatever point that might be - it's lost on me )

But when I'm in the Punto then BMW drivers just cut me up constantly.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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Good review!

Yes, no S2000 replacement but I can see the appeal, even though I have my personal difficulties with it.

Juventino, it's the carpet-crawler petty-oneupmanship thing. I don't need to play those games (although watching a tailgating constipated-faced A4 understeer off a roundabout IS amusing!) It can be a PIA in the Civic, which looks very innocuous from the rear, like your Punto & suffers more as a consequence.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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Bloody hell Fletch, you wont be having much choice the next time you buy a car. However I know what you are saying, I probably wouldnt buy a Merc or Jag because they are old peoples cars nor a range rover as they are for drug dealers etc etc
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ADP,May 15 2008, 10:00 AM
Bloody hell Fletch, you wont be having much choice the next time you buy a car. However I know what you are saying, I probably wouldnt buy a Merc or Jag because they are old peoples cars nor a range rover as they are for drug dealers etc etc
Lets face it , whatever you buy someone will have an issue with it.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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I still don't really buy this BMW/Audi drivers business, I think people expect it so when there is an incident involving those makes of car they tend to stick in their head more.

I'm as guilty of it as anyone, I always notice badly driven Porsches on track days but I'm probably subconsciously looking for problems with them.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:48 AM
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The BMW driver thing is a myth. Its an image created when BMWs were seen as a superior car and people who owned cheaper cars felt they needed to attack. A nob head driver is going to drive like a cock whether he is in a lada or a lambo. Its actually mainly on the s2k forum where I see it mentioned most
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ge2,May 15 2008, 10:38 AM
I still don't really buy this BMW/Audi drivers business, I think people expect it so when there is an incident involving those makes of car they tend to stick in their head more.

I'm as guilty of it as anyone, I always notice badly driven Porsches on track days but I'm probably subconsciously looking for problems with them.
I think everyone drives like a twat sometimes no matter what they are in, I am no angel that's for sure but then who is!! Maybe the reason 3 series beemers get a hard deal is cos if only 1 pct of them drive bad there are so many around that it tars the rest of the owners. I dont hear many people saying ' those bl00dy veyron owners are complete twats'
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mole,May 15 2008, 11:48 AM
The BMW driver thing is a myth. Its an image created when BMWs were seen as a superior car and people who owned cheaper cars felt they needed to attack. A nob head driver is going to drive like a cock whether he is in a lada or a lambo. Its actually mainly on the s2k forum where I see it mentioned most
So why is it that 75% of BMWs have faulty indicators?


Like Ge says, it may be a case of looking for it, but I'm willing to bet that 50% of the cars I see during a week NOT indicating would be a BMW.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieS2K,May 15 2008, 11:49 AM
I dont hear many people saying ' those bl00dy veyron owners are complete twats'
Ahhh... now there's a very good point...
I may see more shit driving in three series BMWs simply because there are soooo many of them on the road and it's just a case of averages.
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