Snake oil or.........?
08-22-2011, 02:58 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Snake oil or.........?
Came across this while bored today. It sounds plausible but I have my doubts.
http://www.aspirationenhancementsystems.com/
http://www.aspirationenhancementsystems.com/
08-22-2011, 03:21 AM
#2
So they use on board electrolysis to generate hydrogen and oxygen that is then added to the fuel mix when required.
I can see the addition of oxygen and hydrogen to the fuel mix giving added power and economy, but the electrolysis will require electricity which the engine has to generate and will therefore consume power.
I suspect its snake oil and they are claiming that the alternator is always producing electricity whether its wanted or not, so the power required for the electrolysis is 'free'.
I can see the addition of oxygen and hydrogen to the fuel mix giving added power and economy, but the electrolysis will require electricity which the engine has to generate and will therefore consume power.
I suspect its snake oil and they are claiming that the alternator is always producing electricity whether its wanted or not, so the power required for the electrolysis is 'free'.
08-22-2011, 03:24 AM
#3
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So they use on board electrolysis to generate hydrogen and oxygen that is then added to the fuel mix when required.
I can see the addition of oxygen and hydrogen to the fuel mix giving added power and economy, but the electrolysis will require electricity which the engine has to generate and will therefore consume power.
I suspect its snake oil and they are claiming that the alternator is always producing electricity whether its wanted or not, so the power required for the electrolysis is 'free'.
I can see the addition of oxygen and hydrogen to the fuel mix giving added power and economy, but the electrolysis will require electricity which the engine has to generate and will therefore consume power.
I suspect its snake oil and they are claiming that the alternator is always producing electricity whether its wanted or not, so the power required for the electrolysis is 'free'.
Does this differ significantly from water injection and have you seen the size of the HGV installation?
08-22-2011, 04:35 AM
#4
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This is an idea I came up with back when I was 12 after I stuck 2 probes attached to a scalextric powerpack into some water.
Back then I didn't know about conservation of energy or enthalpy of combustion etc.
I 'suppose' it would work since the alternator is running constantly.
However, you'd be faaaaaaaaar better off with a clutch type alternator.
That is unless the hydrogen produces a higher efficency combustion cycle that raises efficiency to a greater level than petrol + parastic draw of the alternator would alone.
This type of system is completely different to water injection which is used to cool the charge and prevent detonation.
Back then I didn't know about conservation of energy or enthalpy of combustion etc.
I 'suppose' it would work since the alternator is running constantly.
However, you'd be faaaaaaaaar better off with a clutch type alternator.
That is unless the hydrogen produces a higher efficency combustion cycle that raises efficiency to a greater level than petrol + parastic draw of the alternator would alone.
This type of system is completely different to water injection which is used to cool the charge and prevent detonation.
08-22-2011, 11:12 AM
#6
This is an idea I came up with back when I was 12 after I stuck 2 probes attached to a scalextric powerpack into some water.
Back then I didn't know about conservation of energy or enthalpy of combustion etc.
I 'suppose' it would work since the alternator is running constantly.
However, you'd be faaaaaaaaar better off with a clutch type alternator.
That is unless the hydrogen produces a higher efficency combustion cycle that raises efficiency to a greater level than petrol + parastic draw of the alternator would alone.
This type of system is completely different to water injection which is used to cool the charge and prevent detonation.
Back then I didn't know about conservation of energy or enthalpy of combustion etc.
I 'suppose' it would work since the alternator is running constantly.
However, you'd be faaaaaaaaar better off with a clutch type alternator.
That is unless the hydrogen produces a higher efficency combustion cycle that raises efficiency to a greater level than petrol + parastic draw of the alternator would alone.
This type of system is completely different to water injection which is used to cool the charge and prevent detonation.
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08-24-2011, 07:36 AM
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