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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Mikds,

Here;

Budget 2008

Here;

Budget 2007

And here;

Budget 2006


Show the figures I outlined.


What you have shown there is the DEL (Departmental Expenditure Limit). From what I understand, this is the fixed budget for the department, but there are additional spendings like AME (Anually Managed Expenditure) that don't fit into a fixed budget model that are also part of the department spendings. Then there is investments in private sector, this is also not included in the DEL but part of department spending.


Here shows the total spending for Transport:

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/9/7/pb...annexd3_199.pdf
p211 Table D7

Also, although this is 2004, the document below shows the private investment I talked about:

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/6/F/sr2004_ch09.PDF
Read Part 9.11

It looks like approx
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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Thanks for the links.

One thing's for sure its damned confusing to try to work out where your tax money is being spent! I doubt that tax revenue is allocated to be spent relative to its source, however, and so if a reduction were to be made in fuel tax collection then spending could be cut elsewhere, not necessarily on transport. I do believe that public spending is rampant under this administration and that it wouldn't do any harm at all to cut it back in some areas of the public sector, leaving basic services intact obviously.

On the subject of the basic fuel commodity price, somebody this morning was telling me that the "conspiracy theory" they have heard is that America is holding back domestic supplies until their presidential election and which is putting further pressure on the market.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Well on the nail there.

Eny fule kno that interest rates are too blunt an instrument to control rampant inflation, since it fuels it.

A massive cut in public expenditure is required if we are to avoid banana republic status & the '80s shakeout all over again...

No-one is allowed to say it.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Jul 4 2008, 05:11 PM
Well on the nail there.

Eny fule kno that interest rates are too blunt an instrument to control rampant inflation, since it fuels it.

A massive cut in public expenditure is required if we are to avoid banana republic status & the '80s shakeout all over again...

No-one is allowed to say it.
Well, no one outside of internet forums..
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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I'm sure I've got S2KI monitored by Special Branch by now!

I expect to be disappeared, unless the current gov't is disappeared first!
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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I'm expecting CCTV to be installed in my toilet any day soon (I'm sure they already bug my phone) - hold your head high as they march you off to Room 101
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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I'm all in favour of high fuel taxes-keeps the chavs off the road. As for cameras if they want to film me going to Sainsburys , fine, especially if it catches someone keying my car!
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mikdys,Jul 4 2008, 05:23 PM
I'm expecting CCTV to be installed in my toilet any day soon (I'm sure they already bug my phone) - hold your head high as they march you off to Room 101
I am trying to become de-sensitised to rats, just in case.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by russellhq,Jul 3 2008, 10:03 AM


I guess you can take your pick who you want to believe but at the end of the day oil is a finite resource and the price is only going to go up!
it's a finite resource all right

but not for HUNDREDS of years

you think the USA is dry - it most certainly isn't - they've been very clever in mothballing plenty

you think there is nothing under the Poles - oh yes there is (and no treaty will stop it being extracted)

under China

under huge chunks of Asia

under unexplored stretches of ocean?

supply and demand is way too simple

especially when some people invent figures for either or both

'Peak Oil' - got to be one of the most pathetic theories of recent years


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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by billybiker,Jul 4 2008, 05:25 PM
I'm all in favour of high fuel taxes-keeps the chavs off the road. As for cameras if they want to film me going to Sainsburys , fine, especially if it catches someone keying my car!
My son had a car stolen from under a CCTV camera once and that didn't help catch anybody (neither did tracing the numbers they dialed from his [contract] mobile phone that was in the glove box - that was against some bl**dy EU rule).

It is good for spying on the populace however
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