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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Nov 6 2005, 02:26 PM
OAKLAND SUCKS!
They are no longer predictable losers, however.
I questioned their first 2 pt conversion attempt. WTF? Forget the tie. You need a TD to win either way. After that missed conversion, I expected them to get the touchdown, then lose to KC on a last second FG - the missed conversions being the difference.
Against true Raider fashion, they converted the second 2 ptr preventing a winning FG by KC. In true Raider fashion, they left just enough time for KC to win anyway .
LOSERS! LOSERS! LOSERS!Bottom line - 3 TDs + 2 FGs > 2 TDs + 3 FGs
Losers score FGs!
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Originally Posted by zdave87,Nov 6 2005, 03:12 PM
I try to pick one upset per week.
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Greyhounds Football Team Put Up for Sale
By DON CLEGG
The Ohio Valley Greyhounds may have played their last game at WesBanco Arena.
In the face of mounting losses and other business commitments, managing general partner George Kellas said Tuesday that he has placed a Nov. 15 deadline on the sale of the team.
"The future of the franchise is definitely in jeopardy," said Kellas. "I just don't have the time or energy to devote to two full-time jobs.
"If we can't finalize a deal before Nov. 15, the Greyhounds will cease to exist."
Kellas, who founded the Ohio Valley's first indoor football franchise seven years ago, has been trying to find a buyer who would agree to keep the team in Wheeling.
"With all the work we've put into this over the past seven years," said Kellas, "I said from the beginning that anybody who purchased the team would have to agree to keep it here.
"I'll go in the tank with it before I'll let someone come in here and move it."
There have been glimmers of hope. Kellas said he had verbal agreements in place with two separate purchasers only to see both deals fall through.
The apparent failure of the most recent offer over the weekend is what sparked the final decision.
"I was ready to do this a month ago," said Kellas, "but a guy called me from Waco, Texas, and asked if he could try to put a deal together.
"In the contract we sent him, he was supposed to have sent in his initial deposit by noon today and we still haven't received it.
"I haven't talked to him since Friday. He's not answering his phones and he hasn't returned any of my messages. I have to assume he's changed his mind.
"We're running out of time. The season starts in March so, if anyone buys it, they'll have to be up and running by Dec. 1 at the latest."
The asking price for the United Indoor Football franchise and its assets is $135,000.
"That would eliminate all the debts," said Kellas, "and give whoever buys it a pretty good deal.
"The expansion fee for a UIF franchise is $85,000 and you'd still have to go out and buy your turf plus all the padding for the boards. That's at least another $15,000-20,000.
"Once you crunch all the numbers, we're basically offering an existing franchise - almost a turnkey operation - for less than the price of starting up an expansion franchise."
Kellas conceded that he and his partners have taken financial losses.
"We were never in it for the money," said Kellas. "I'm probably out about $35,000 and my partners a little less.
"None of us are going to get all of our money back but we don't care.
"The goal from Day One was to provide something positive for the community and I think we succeeded in that."
Wheeling's indoor football franchise debuted in 1999 as the Steel Valley Smash.
The Smash was just 2-10 in its first season but improved to 10-5 in 2000 before the Indoor Football League collapsed.
Kellas joined other owners from the former IFL and IPFL to form the National Indoor Football League and changed the name of his franchise to the Ohio Valley Greyhounds.
The Greyhounds dominated the NIFL, winning back-to-back league titles in 2002-03 and advancing to the conference championship games in 2001 and 2004.
The franchise switched leagues again this past spring but struggled to a 6-11 record in the UIF.
"There has been a lot of turmoil with the different leagues," said Kellas, "but I have nothing but positive things to say about the UIF.
"The situation now, from a league perspective in terms of stability and potential, is the best it has ever been."
The American Indoor Football League - perhaps the UIF's main competitor - announced earlier this year that the expansion Steubenville Stampede will kick off this spring at St. John Arena.
Kellas confirmed that he has been contacted by the AIFL league office but declined to comment on the discussion.
With his deadline now less than two weeks away, Kellas says he's leaving no stone unturned in his quest to keep the Greyhounds in Wheeling.
"If anybody out there is willing to step forward," said Kellas, "they can call me during normal business hours at (304) 214-1610.
"I'll spend as much time working with them to help with the transition as they want. I just want to see this team survive."
By DON CLEGG
The Ohio Valley Greyhounds may have played their last game at WesBanco Arena.
In the face of mounting losses and other business commitments, managing general partner George Kellas said Tuesday that he has placed a Nov. 15 deadline on the sale of the team.
"The future of the franchise is definitely in jeopardy," said Kellas. "I just don't have the time or energy to devote to two full-time jobs.
"If we can't finalize a deal before Nov. 15, the Greyhounds will cease to exist."
Kellas, who founded the Ohio Valley's first indoor football franchise seven years ago, has been trying to find a buyer who would agree to keep the team in Wheeling.
"With all the work we've put into this over the past seven years," said Kellas, "I said from the beginning that anybody who purchased the team would have to agree to keep it here.
"I'll go in the tank with it before I'll let someone come in here and move it."
There have been glimmers of hope. Kellas said he had verbal agreements in place with two separate purchasers only to see both deals fall through.
The apparent failure of the most recent offer over the weekend is what sparked the final decision.
"I was ready to do this a month ago," said Kellas, "but a guy called me from Waco, Texas, and asked if he could try to put a deal together.
"In the contract we sent him, he was supposed to have sent in his initial deposit by noon today and we still haven't received it.
"I haven't talked to him since Friday. He's not answering his phones and he hasn't returned any of my messages. I have to assume he's changed his mind.
"We're running out of time. The season starts in March so, if anyone buys it, they'll have to be up and running by Dec. 1 at the latest."
The asking price for the United Indoor Football franchise and its assets is $135,000.
"That would eliminate all the debts," said Kellas, "and give whoever buys it a pretty good deal.
"The expansion fee for a UIF franchise is $85,000 and you'd still have to go out and buy your turf plus all the padding for the boards. That's at least another $15,000-20,000.
"Once you crunch all the numbers, we're basically offering an existing franchise - almost a turnkey operation - for less than the price of starting up an expansion franchise."
Kellas conceded that he and his partners have taken financial losses.
"We were never in it for the money," said Kellas. "I'm probably out about $35,000 and my partners a little less.
"None of us are going to get all of our money back but we don't care.
"The goal from Day One was to provide something positive for the community and I think we succeeded in that."
Wheeling's indoor football franchise debuted in 1999 as the Steel Valley Smash.
The Smash was just 2-10 in its first season but improved to 10-5 in 2000 before the Indoor Football League collapsed.
Kellas joined other owners from the former IFL and IPFL to form the National Indoor Football League and changed the name of his franchise to the Ohio Valley Greyhounds.
The Greyhounds dominated the NIFL, winning back-to-back league titles in 2002-03 and advancing to the conference championship games in 2001 and 2004.
The franchise switched leagues again this past spring but struggled to a 6-11 record in the UIF.
"There has been a lot of turmoil with the different leagues," said Kellas, "but I have nothing but positive things to say about the UIF.
"The situation now, from a league perspective in terms of stability and potential, is the best it has ever been."
The American Indoor Football League - perhaps the UIF's main competitor - announced earlier this year that the expansion Steubenville Stampede will kick off this spring at St. John Arena.
Kellas confirmed that he has been contacted by the AIFL league office but declined to comment on the discussion.
With his deadline now less than two weeks away, Kellas says he's leaving no stone unturned in his quest to keep the Greyhounds in Wheeling.
"If anybody out there is willing to step forward," said Kellas, "they can call me during normal business hours at (304) 214-1610.
"I'll spend as much time working with them to help with the transition as they want. I just want to see this team survive."
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