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...It was a lot easier to attend when I lived in Ontario (got an award the first year for travelling the farthest 
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Originally Posted by shareall' timestamp='1429124182' post='23578979
[quote name='kryptonite' timestamp='1429123323' post='23578943']
Right now I'm saying that there were 4 crashes I know of, two of those totalled their cars. the Silver one flipped it somehow, BB crashed into something, it looked like someone ripped the drivers side front off the car, one guy hit a guard rail and drove away and the other knocked the tail into a wall.
There's something to be said about taking your time on day 1, even day 2, getting comfortable with the road, the car, and yourself, and slowly increasing the pace until you get to a decent pace. Thing with the dragon and the surrounding roads is there's very little forgiveness like on a track.
Right now I'm saying that there were 4 crashes I know of, two of those totalled their cars. the Silver one flipped it somehow, BB crashed into something, it looked like someone ripped the drivers side front off the car, one guy hit a guard rail and drove away and the other knocked the tail into a wall.
There's something to be said about taking your time on day 1, even day 2, getting comfortable with the road, the car, and yourself, and slowly increasing the pace until you get to a decent pace. Thing with the dragon and the surrounding roads is there's very little forgiveness like on a track.
4 accidents in one weekend is nuts. I know there were some veteran guys there, didn't anyone give the "slow the eff down so you don't die, it's not a race course!" talk? Or did people just ignore it, thinking they were Lewis Hamilton?
I was lucky, my first trip to the Dragon, on the first pass thru, I got to "follow" Jason Saini (who has subsequently won a fair bit in high level auto-x/racing). And I say "follow" because despite being in identical stock S2000s on stock S02s, I managed to stay within visual of him for 3, yes 3, turns at the Dragon. He was that much better than me. So I just went about it myself and didn't try to prove anything, just to not die. My pace got better over the years (as others can attest to) with familiarity and practice. Like HC, most of the trips, the worst thing was a talk to a local constabulary (I had a couple myself
, and may or may not have made a run for the state line a couple times 
). Couple cars went off in various states of disrepair of the years...But that much carnage in one weekend? Oi.
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Right now I wondered the same thing in terms of whether there was a group talk/warning before rollout or at another time. The spring events always had a more intense vibe - more attendees and many people had the "itch" after taking the car out of storage. Combine that with high testosterone levels and the risk went up. As the years went on, I spent less and less time on the actual Dragon and more time exploring the surrounding areas.
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Originally Posted by UnkieTrunkie' timestamp='1429140317' post='23579380
[quote name='kryptonite' timestamp='1429131521' post='23579199']
Right now thinking most of you
folks are out west but we should do a dragon trip / meet there on one of these events 
Right now thinking most of you
folks are out west but we should do a dragon trip / meet there on one of these events ...It was a lot easier to attend when I lived in Ontario (got an award the first year for travelling the farthest ).[/quote]
Right now saying they didn't do that award this year. Technically flew in from Costa Rica for the dragon so I wonder if I would have won.
Originally Posted by WestSideBilly' timestamp='1429202673' post='23580283
[quote name='shareall' timestamp='1429124182' post='23578979']
[quote name='kryptonite' timestamp='1429123323' post='23578943']
Right now I'm saying that there were 4 crashes I know of, two of those totalled their cars. the Silver one flipped it somehow, BB crashed into something, it looked like someone ripped the drivers side front off the car, one guy hit a guard rail and drove away and the other knocked the tail into a wall.
There's something to be said about taking your time on day 1, even day 2, getting comfortable with the road, the car, and yourself, and slowly increasing the pace until you get to a decent pace. Thing with the dragon and the surrounding roads is there's very little forgiveness like on a track.
[quote name='kryptonite' timestamp='1429123323' post='23578943']
Right now I'm saying that there were 4 crashes I know of, two of those totalled their cars. the Silver one flipped it somehow, BB crashed into something, it looked like someone ripped the drivers side front off the car, one guy hit a guard rail and drove away and the other knocked the tail into a wall.
There's something to be said about taking your time on day 1, even day 2, getting comfortable with the road, the car, and yourself, and slowly increasing the pace until you get to a decent pace. Thing with the dragon and the surrounding roads is there's very little forgiveness like on a track.
4 accidents in one weekend is nuts. I know there were some veteran guys there, didn't anyone give the "slow the eff down so you don't die, it's not a race course!" talk? Or did people just ignore it, thinking they were Lewis Hamilton?
I was lucky, my first trip to the Dragon, on the first pass thru, I got to "follow" Jason Saini (who has subsequently won a fair bit in high level auto-x/racing). And I say "follow" because despite being in identical stock S2000s on stock S02s, I managed to stay within visual of him for 3, yes 3, turns at the Dragon. He was that much better than me. So I just went about it myself and didn't try to prove anything, just to not die. My pace got better over the years (as others can attest to) with familiarity and practice. Like HC, most of the trips, the worst thing was a talk to a local constabulary (I had a couple myself
, and may or may not have made a run for the state line a couple times ). Couple cars went off in various states of disrepair of the years...But that much carnage in one weekend? Oi.
[/quote]
Right now I wondered the same thing in terms of whether there was a group talk/warning before rollout or at another time. The spring events always had a more intense vibe - more attendees and many people had the "itch" after taking the car out of storage. Combine that with high testosterone levels and the risk went up. As the years went on, I spent less and less time on the actual Dragon and more time exploring the surrounding areas.
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Right now wondering if I have to "right now" again
They did the newbie drive. The people crashing weren't newbies.
There was a lot of gravel on the road and random bumps. I was driving straight on devils triangle (Fast albeit) and the tail suddenly snapped to the left. Luckily I've had my share of tail kicks and I managed to drift through the next 50 feet and control it through.
I think I just saw a 5th accident on the RTD photo thread. These are just the s2000s FYI. There was a Fiat and Prelude group there this year too
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Right now wondering if I have to "right now" again
They did the newbie drive. The people crashing weren't newbies.
There was a lot of gravel on the road and random bumps. I was driving straight on devils triangle (Fast albeit) and the tail suddenly snapped to the left. Luckily I've had my share of tail kicks and I managed to drift through the next 50 feet and control it through.
I think I just saw a 5th accident on the RTD photo thread. These are just the s2000s FYI. There was a Fiat and Prelude group there this year too
They did the newbie drive. The people crashing weren't newbies.
There was a lot of gravel on the road and random bumps. I was driving straight on devils triangle (Fast albeit) and the tail suddenly snapped to the left. Luckily I've had my share of tail kicks and I managed to drift through the next 50 feet and control it through.
I think I just saw a 5th accident on the RTD photo thread. These are just the s2000s FYI. There was a Fiat and Prelude group there this year too
What is devil's triangle? Never heard that corner name before.
BTW, the above isn't targeted at you, but more general. A lot of people go there and try to prove something, but mostly just prove they're asshats.
