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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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"With the Reformation, a cleavage developed as to exactly how the invisible world might be perceived; whether, indeed, it could be perceived at all by those still housed in the flesh. Until the Reformation, the catholic church had assumed that the unseen world from time to time impinged upon the physical order by making itself manifest to certain individuals; hence, pre-reformation Christianity is rife with accounts of visions, dreams, and miracles. It does not follow that the church sanctioned all of these accounts: some were strongly doubted, others were encouraged, and still others were treated with indifference."


"But philosophically the medieval Church had no problem handling these phenomena, for in both Platonic and Aristotelian thought the relationship between the physical and invisible world is a close one. If the eternal, spiritual realm, as Plato said, is to some extent reflected in the physical world, then the two can never really be separated. The parallel between the
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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I'm dealing in the factual historical realm. . . the metaphysical realm I'm quite familiar with.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Shadows? Or the Whiteheadian string theory?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Reluctantly deferring to Whitehead. . .
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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My main criticism of Whitehead is that it oversimplifies the process of knowledge through action leading to wisdom.

Also, while Martin Luther was a great thinker (and personal hero), he'd have been dead as a doornail had it not been for Gutenberg as well as the blind hubris of the Holy Roman Empire.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Whitehead is the man. Doesn't oversimplify a damn thing, which is his weakness. I think of his metaphysics as more a series of process interactions, and knowledge is a possible outcome of our understanding of that, but not wisdom.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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who says im at work?



If im going to 4chan, you think pr0n is going to be the worst of what i'm looking at?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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I say you're at the strip club.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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